Coyote  | 05 Nov 2009 5:34 p.m. PST |
Thinking about different vignettes to use for casualty, disorder and broken markers in Black Powder
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| vtsaogames | 05 Nov 2009 7:43 p.m. PST |
I'd play the game with whatever I have first before painting up markers. You might not like the way it plays. Mind you, I just ordered a set and hope they are just the thing. |
| malcolmmccallum | 05 Nov 2009 7:54 p.m. PST |
I've always wanted to do an impractical manner of disorder marking: Replace the command stand (or at least the standard) with one in tatters. If doing the whole stand I'd put one of the figs as a casualty and make it a vignette. |
| Coyote | 05 Nov 2009 8:45 p.m. PST |
vtsaogames: I'm playing Napoleonics no matter what, and I will have vignette markers for any game I play, it's one of the things I want out of my wargame, but I appreciate the sentiment. I certainly will be painting all my units before I start on markers. I may be retentive about playing with painted miniatures, but once they're painted I'm playing and damn the torpedoes. I mean, markers. Malcolmmccallum – I actually considered that, replacing a stand with one of soldiers running away. One could even turn some stands around. I decided against it because I don't want to be replacing stands. Wouldn't it be oool to have an army where each unit has marching, at ready, firing and charging/melee poses, just swap out the models as you go. One of those hard-core horse-and-musket players who've already painted a decent army and keep adding massive units to it faster than I paint a couple of miniatures -- I'm looking at you Fritz -- could probably do it for a few units. Unfortunately turns take 6 hours and a second, larger table is needed just to hold the spare figures! |
| Rudysnelson | 05 Nov 2009 9:17 p.m. PST |
Is a page not avialable in the rules for you to copy and use for the needed markers? Such things are easy to do on both ends. They provide nice color markers and the buyer can copy them in color without a problem. |
| Arteis | 05 Nov 2009 11:30 p.m. PST |
No, the rule book does not provide paper markers (thank goodness – paper markers would be oxymoric in a game designed for aesthetics!). The book suggests using casualty figures for casualties, and cotton wool smoke or something else visual for disordered. Personally for most games that have rules for disorder, we find just jiggling the bases around a bit works as a perfectly logical marker. In which case I would use jiggled AND smoke for shaken. |
| Surferdude | 06 Nov 2009 12:17 a.m. PST |
We are using casualty markers for hits – when the unit hits 2, 3 or 4 (depending on type)they are shaken so no need for a different one. Disordered we have been using a 'jiggle' of the unit to show or a terrain coloured marker. It is refreshing only to need the two types to be honest. |
| Rudysnelson | 06 Nov 2009 9:01 a.m. PST |
So arteis you have any number of variations and markers being used. So some will use casualty markers, or plastic constructs or dice or make their own paper makers. That does not afect aesthtics more than providing a standard set of markers to be used? Back in my day of the 1980s we provided a sheet of chit markers to use with Guard du Corps. There was uniformity in appearance on the table. I encourage someone who likes the rules to produce a marker set to be used in full color and put it on a forum so anybody can copy it for use. |
| Gallowglass | 06 Nov 2009 1:01 p.m. PST |
The book suggests using casualty figures for casualties, and cotton wool smoke or something else visual for disordered. I'd suggest custom markers consisting of dropped packs, firearms, maybe the odd bit of headgear or a drum to designate "disorderd" status. Simple yet aesthetically pleasing markers ought to be easy enough to put together given the availability of the various extras from the current ranges of plastic Napoleonics etc., or from the metal accessories put out by a number of manufacturers. Discarded equipment says "disordered" to me… However, as Rudy says, there is nothing wrong with coloured chits if that's what works for the gamer in question. Different strokes and so forth. My personal preference is for a more visually pleasing status marker than a piece of card or paper. |
| Albino Squirrel | 06 Nov 2009 1:16 p.m. PST |
Perhaps a wounded officer figure might be good for a disordered marker. Or if you are using wounded or dead figures for casualty markers, a base with a few figures running away could be a disordered marker. You wouldn't have to replace a stand with them, just put it behind the unit. But that might look more like it represents falling back than disordered. |
| Rudysnelson | 06 Nov 2009 3:04 p.m. PST |
WOunded and dead guys always make for good disruption markers. |
