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ccmatty31 Oct 2009 7:00 p.m. PST

Hello. I am looking to recreate the Market Garden campaign in 15mm for FOW. Does anyone know of a manufacturer of 15mm terrain (buildings, etc.) that would fit the look and feel of the Netherlands? I know that Kerr& King and Crescent Root make fantastic terrain. Not sure if that would be the answer…

Also, anyone know what the highway from Belgium through Eindhoven/Nijmegen was made of? I assume it was mostly gravel/dirt.

Thank you very much for your time.

tmy 193931 Oct 2009 7:38 p.m. PST

I'm sure someone here has more information but this may help.

Parts of Hell's Highway were cobblestone (like many Dutch main roads):

picture

Slightly clearer picture of a Dutch cobblestones from the 1950's:

link

Personal logo timurilank Supporting Member of TMP31 Oct 2009 10:27 p.m. PST

ccmatty … Hovels 15mm European series works well. Do set the church on a small hill; place of refuge during flooding.

link

Secondly, the provincial roads shown in the two photos are interlocking bricks set in a herringbone pattern. Still used today, but the main throughfares would most likely be asphalt/concrete.

Most of the countryside would have rectangular fields surrounded by a wet ditch (precludes the need for fencing). Trees would line the roads to offer a windbreak.

Secondary roads could also be gravel, especially those paralleling or on top of the dikes.

Try google maps of the area and replace the motorways with one lane asphalt roads, the roads depicted in grey as brick and gravel combinations. Do not overlook the occassional canal with wooden bridge.

Cheers,
Robert
18thcenturysojourn.blogspot.com

Personal logo Gungnir Supporting Member of TMP31 Oct 2009 11:44 p.m. PST

I do Market-Garden specific buildings in 15mm paper, also available in digital version:

picture

(Scroll down for the English language version)

Personal logo Gungnir Supporting Member of TMP31 Oct 2009 11:45 p.m. PST

Oh, and don't forget concrete roads for the area, still present in some places. Herringbone bricks would have been common too.

Personal logo timurilank Supporting Member of TMP01 Nov 2009 1:39 a.m. PST

Gungnir… great photo, but not of the buildings :)

Martin Rapier01 Nov 2009 2:29 a.m. PST

To echo the comments above, the main roads were hard (concrete, cobbles, tarmac) not dirt tracks.

Careful with modern road maps, there are motorways in places where there weren't any roads/bridges at all in 1944 – like that enormous new bridge just west of Arnhem….

Dike tops were typically gravel although I have come across herringbone brick roads up there too.

Personal logo Schulein Supporting Member of TMP01 Nov 2009 2:44 a.m. PST

15mm dutch church and house
link
20mm Arnhem
rlbps.com/RLBPBul.htm
You might be able to use a large 20mm building for 15mm in a pinch. Buildings like hotels , churches and factories could be fudged a little.

Personal logo Gungnir Supporting Member of TMP02 Nov 2009 10:42 a.m. PST

Sorry, wrong link!

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tuscaloosa02 Nov 2009 12:53 p.m. PST

The recent Command Decision scenario book on Market Garden has extensive color photos of spot-on terrain (specific buildings, towns, bridges etc) for the campaign. You might find that to be real inspiration.

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP02 Nov 2009 3:32 p.m. PST

I'm just starting work on a Market-Garden series of terrain for PaperTerrain. I'm nearly done with a model of the Hartenstein Hotel and I hope to have more to follow. I realize that doesn't do you much good right now :) But my European buildings might work for you (and they are designed for use with FoW). Especially if you order them with the red tile roofs.

paperterrain.com

McWong7302 Nov 2009 6:40 p.m. PST

Battlefield Accessories does a very good range of Dutch townhouses and buildings. They are multi level with removalbe roofs etc.

For rural buildings any generic north west europe building will be fine.

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