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olicana28 Oct 2009 10:30 a.m. PST

Hi,

Just finished the hastati for the Roman part of my consular army. I've put the principes and the hastati together and I can now, for the first time, get an impression of what this consular army (576 infantry figures) is going to look like.
It looks pretty good to me!

What do you reckon,

olicanalad.blogspot.com

James

Spotter28 Oct 2009 11:31 a.m. PST

Oh yes. Just bloody lovely. Nice one.

John Leahy Sponsoring Member of TMP28 Oct 2009 11:40 a.m. PST

Those are VERY nice! That's a serious project you are working on.

Good luck.

John

xxxxxxxxooooo28 Oct 2009 12:07 p.m. PST

Simply fantastic stuff.

576 FIGURES??!?!?!! Wow

How many for the oppo?

Rassilon28 Oct 2009 12:31 p.m. PST

Sweet Jumpin Hastati! Great! :)

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP28 Oct 2009 1:22 p.m. PST

Very nice, indeed!

oldbob28 Oct 2009 1:32 p.m. PST

Oh so very lovely, outstanding!

Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP28 Oct 2009 1:51 p.m. PST

Lovely work. Now I may need to up the size of our legions! ;-)

Simon

mbsparta28 Oct 2009 2:07 p.m. PST

James,

Fantastic!

Carthago delenda est

Mithridates28 Oct 2009 2:28 p.m. PST

Great work James – quite a basing task ahead of you!

I just hope you don't have to carry the troops very far – Renegade en masse must weigh in a lot more than other ranges.

Garry

rjabox28 Oct 2009 3:29 p.m. PST

Looking fantastic! Can't wait to see the triarii added to this lot!!

LEGION 195028 Oct 2009 4:02 p.m. PST

Now that is a Legion!!!!! Great work James Mike Adams

DeanMoto28 Oct 2009 8:57 p.m. PST

Beautiful work. Dean

olicana29 Oct 2009 2:12 a.m. PST

Hi Guiscard,

There are quite a few of what you call 'oppos' – more than originally planned. From memory they roughly comprise:

Gauls 340 inf 60 cav
Spanish 300 inf 48 cav
African 240 infantry 72 cav 8 elephants

If I have time (and a November 2011 finish is looking within reach by 6 months) I will increase by another: 240 Spanish inf and 24 cav, 240 Gallic inf and 36 cav, and possibly 96 more Africans inf and 24 cav. Whatever happens the painting will cease November 2011 – out of time – PROJECT ENDED!!! IT'S THE LAW!!!

James

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP29 Oct 2009 6:36 a.m. PST

A project with a time line? That's just wrong.

olicana29 Oct 2009 7:54 a.m. PST

79thPA,

This is a hobby, and consequently there is no right or wrong way to collect and paint toy soldiers.

However, I have seen so many promising collections become half collections that can barely do a game, let alone a campaign, that I have been sickened to the core. So many bits and pieces collections, that require so many bits and pieces from the bits and pieces collections of so many others, that I'm surprised they can organise a game at all. It's sickening!

There are reasons for this of course. Too many goodies in the store, overambition due to lack of time or cash, getting bored because of a lack of basic research before piling into a period (the 'do I really want to do this' question), or plain old sheer bloody laziness. However, there is a way and I've cracked it (for me at least).

You've got to get, to coin a phrase, 'medieval on yer arse'. Discipline.
1.You've got to know you want to do it – and you better be sure because you can start no other project until it's finished.
2.You've got to put aside the right amount of cash to do it and be able to stump it up before you start.
3.You've got to tell yourself when you are going to end it – you must have a date to look forward to( the time spent painting one project is the time to research your next.) In my case, I plan on doing one project every two years or so.

This latter point is the key. I assess how long it will take to paint a project (say 1 unit a week minimum). I give myself 6 weeks a year leeway and set an end date. In my Punic Wars project this is November 2011; and here is the medieval bit. On the 1st of December 2011, regardless of how many figures are left to be painted I will not paint another figure for the collection. That's it – THE END. It absolutely forces me to get them done.

Looking back, this is my fifth project using this system (though the first two were, admittedly, more by accident than design) and it works. In the last 6 years alone (including breaks) I've painted, for myself, almost 5000 28mm figs to a high standard (not to mention the bits and pieces I've done between formal projects). What's more, I have four full collections that I can use to fight large multiplayer campaigns with – (WoR = 1000 figs, Italian Wars 1400 figs, 7YW 1200 figs, Early Crusades 1300 figs.

It might sound a boring way to do it, but it gets me there.

James

Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP29 Oct 2009 8:40 a.m. PST

James, it's an admirable system.

My principle interest is ancients, and I have started at least 25 different armies. Several of these armies are very large, but many others have only one or two units and consequently have never been used in anger.

For me, it takes a focus like Zama to get a couple of armies finished.

Simon

Keraunos29 Oct 2009 9:20 a.m. PST

A good system.

I spent a year 'finishing' projects.

The dismounted figures for a medieval army, the extra figures to make a 'either x or y' into an x and a y, that sort of stuff, rebasing stuff from a system I no longer use to one I do use.

well worth doing – and you get to see figures you sort of forgotten about.

Now, I have a principle – rules first.

If the rules are good, then I'll do a new army for them.

That way I avoid fudging and 'I won't rebase again' compromises on the rules you end up with, so the games are better.

mind you, I have a club meeting every week to play games with, which helps.

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