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dotte200922 Oct 2009 12:29 a.m. PST

New page online about the Battle of Almanza, 1707 at wfgamers.org.uk/. The battle features a Franco Spanish army fighting against an army with British, Dutch and Portuguese troops. The page has OOB's, scenario details, etc, and includes 'what if' details of the Catalan army.

Personal logo Lluis of Minairons Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Oct 2009 5:48 a.m. PST

Hi dotte2009,

I've taken a look at your Almansa battle scenario, and I'd tell you I'm quite impressed at your accurate listings and OOBs. I'm going to recommend it at my own club's website, wargames.cat .

Just for curiosity: Why of the "what if" Catalan-Aragonese units specific selection done in there? Catalan regiments such as "Diputaciσ General" or "Ciutat de Barcelona" stayed at a somewhat long distance away from Almansa, for in these dates both were garrisoning fortresses inside Catalonia or close to the French border. It would have been easier for the Allies to pick up units closer to the battle site, specially Valencian regiments.

BTW, if any uniforms/flags info on these "what-if" units is needed, I worked a humble booklet on this matter last year. It can be downloaded for free, as a PDF file, from desperta-ferro-ed.blogspot.com

dotte200922 Oct 2009 10:56 a.m. PST

Hi Soldadets,

Thank you for your kind comments. This is indeed praise considering the quality of your work on this subject. I know your booklet and was one of the first to download it. It is certainly a ‘must have' for anyone interested in this period.

As to your question about why use the Catalan –Aragonese units listed this is simple. It is because I had no information of where the units were located. This information was in an English language source and it had just a list of the units in ‘The Catalan Army'. As it is for a ‘what if' situation I suppose it doesn't really matter but it would be nice to know. Do you have a list of the nearest units? Perhaps you could post them here?

Personal logo Lluis of Minairons Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Oct 2009 2:32 p.m. PST

Hi again dotte2009,

Don't actually worry too much about it -we're talking just about a "what-if" possibility. Your trial is fine to me.

Anyway, let me do a little research about this matter to try and ellucidate where the most known Catalan-Aragonese regiments were located, so that you can use that info the best way you believe.

As soon as I have a proper listing, I'll let you know.

Best wishes,
Lluνs

Jagger200822 Oct 2009 5:50 p.m. PST

One observation on your website. Any chance of increasing the text size? I adjusted my monitor to the largest text size possible and I still had to squint to read some of the text. Perhaps I just need some new glasses but I can read most sites without too much trouble.

Cafe Vienna22 Oct 2009 9:46 p.m. PST

Hwiccee is back under a new name: Dotte2009. You've been posting the same message on other forums as Hwiccee.

Personal logo Lluis of Minairons Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Oct 2009 6:42 a.m. PST

Jagger2008, I couldn't say how is it so.

I can ensure to have adjusted size on the advise of other TMPers last year, when I set up it for the first time, until it fitted advisers tastes.

I've been comparing that blog's font sizes with those of other wargaming sites I have in my Library, and can see no difference -with no need to adjust font sizes in my Firefox.

Has this issue maybe anything to do with the 'Bookman Old Style' font used? Does anyone else experience that very same trouble?


YEEEP! Jagger2008, are your referring to my own blog desperta-ferro-ed.blogspot.com , or to my club's website wargames.cat instead?

Jagger200823 Oct 2009 4:02 p.m. PST

No Soldadets, not your site. The small text was with Dotte's site. I can read the text on your site without difficulty.

Personal logo Lluis of Minairons Sponsoring Member of TMP25 Oct 2009 10:12 a.m. PST

Dotte2009:

Here you are my numbers relative to the Spanish/Catalan Army of Charles Habsburg by Almansa battle times:

Infantry

no. 1 – Ahumada Regiment (Castilian) – garrisoning Cuenca town until February 1707, when it was redeployed in Catalonia.
no. 3 – Royal Catalan Guards – A few weeks before Almansa, this regiment was involved in the first Allied occupation of Madrid; for we might reasonably believe that, after this, it had been withdrawn from Madrid to Valencia -thus, they were potentially available for your 'what-if' scenario.
no. 4 – La Reina Regiment (Catalan under English pay) – deployed in Catalonia, they sailed for Denia in August to help defend South of Valencia.
no. 5 – Kaulbars/Colbatch Regiment (German) – garrisoning Cuenca town until late 1707, when it was redeployed in Catalonia.
no. 6 – Castiglioni Regiment (later Royal Sicilian Guards) – garrisoning Catalonia.
no. 7 – Diputaciσ General Regiment (Catalan) – garrisoning Catalonia.
no. 8 – Barcelona City Regiment (Catalan) – garrisoning Catalonia.
no. 9 – Valencia City Regiment (Valencian) – by 1707 they were quite active close to Almansa zone: defence of Dιnia, Cartagena and Requena. Actually available for the 'what-if' scenario.
no. 10 – Kingdom of Valencia Regiment – same circumstances as prior one.
no. 11 – Cartagena Regiment (by 1707 mostly Valencians) – same.
no. 12 – Alacant/Alicante Regiment (Valencian under English pay) – same.
no. 13 – Saragossa City Regiment (Aragonese) – garrisoning Aragon.
no. 14 – Francisco Ferrer Regiment (prisoners of war) – garrisoning Catalonia.
no. 15 – Ribagorηa Regiment (Aragonese) – garrisoning Aragon.

Cavalry

no. 1 – El Rey Dragoons (German) – splitted between Valencia and Catalonia (available, then).
no. 2 – Pedro Morras Cuirassiers (Navarrese) – Unknown, the year before Almansa they fought by Valencia.
no. 3 – Miquel Sobies Cavalry (Catalan) – by 1707, fighting by the borders between Aragon and Castile.
no. 4 – Rafael Nebot Cavalry (Catalan) – Before Almansa, they had their headquarters at Valencia. At an uncertain date, they wefre withdrawn to Catalonia (potentially available).
no. 5 – Joan Nebot Cavalry (Catalan) – Same uncertainty. After the loss of Kingdom of Valencia, this unit was reformed due to heavy losses.
no. 6 – Josep Nebot Dragoons (Catalan) – Just defeated and surrendered at Alzira. Lost.
no. 7 – Josep Moragues Cavalry (Catalan) – Just disbanded, reformed into no. 8 Clariana.
no. 8 – Antoni Clariana Cavalry (later Royal Catalan Cavalry Guards) – Garrisoning Catalonia.
no. 9 – Antoni Mas Cavalry (Valencian) – Reformed in 1707 after heavy fighting South of Valencia. I have no more data.
no. 10 – Jaume Rossell Cavalry (Valencian) – Reformed in 1707 too. I have no more data.
no. 11 – Joan J. Tΰrrega Cavalry (Valencian) – Garrisoning Catalonia.
no. 12 – Aragon/Cordova Cuirassiers (Aragonese) – Apparently garrisoning Aragon.

dotte200926 Oct 2009 2:13 a.m. PST

Thanks for your comments Jagger. I have passed them on to the person who does the site and hopefully he can change it.

I don't think he comes here any more Cafe Vienna.

Soldadets thank you for taking te trouble to do this. It is interesting and useful. Is it OK to add this information to the webpage?

Personal logo Lluis of Minairons Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Oct 2009 8:39 a.m. PST

Sure, dotte2009. Use it the best way you will.

desmondo11 Jun 2010 6:38 a.m. PST

Great information – thank you all for the website links and the details of the units of the Catalan Army.

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