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R Mark Davies05 Oct 2009 10:55 a.m. PST

Dear All,

As a Chief Petty Officer (Engine Room Artificer) in the RN during the latter half of WW2, my father-in-law Harry James spent much of his time working from an LCT(E) – Landing Craft Tank (Engineering).

I'd never heard of these beasts until he told me about them: they were the floating engineering workshop for a Landing Craft Flotilla and were converted from a basic LCT by adding a second deck on top of the maindeck.

According to the appendices of Max Hastings' book 'Overlord', there were six LCT(E)s involved in the operation (one of which was Harry's), so they certainly existed.

However, I've come across a brick wall in trying to find information on them. Can anyone help? I'd like to build a model for Harry, but without even a single decent photo, that's going to be impossible.

charon05 Oct 2009 11:15 a.m. PST

Hello,

The LST and Landing Craft Association link might be a place to start.

My dad (volunteered for the Navy in '43) after service in a number of RN ships including a converted banana boat (AA Radar Direction) finished the war in a LST in the Far East.

He was able to get pictures of most of the ships he served on, and was a member of the above association.

Personal logo Mishima Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2009 11:53 a.m. PST

I've looked in the work Assualt from the Sea by JD Ladd and that is pretty comprehensive.
There is no exact match to LST(E)

but have found some similar types Landing Craft, Emergency Repair described as "an engineering workshop for vehicles.

you can buy a disk with diagrams of this at this address.
link

more promising listed at this link link

LSE(LC)
landing ship emergency repair (Landing Craft), ex-LST

sounds like a good match? is it possible the code was changed as they did do that during the war….

bottom pic on this link shows one link

[edit]:
arg got my LST and LCTs mixed up. !!!!!

R Mark Davies05 Oct 2009 12:10 p.m. PST

Charon,

Many thanks for that. I did try them a while back (along with Combinedops.org), but didn't get anything useful back, other than a contact from someone whose father had also served on an LCT(E).

Mishima,

LOL! No worries. Thanks for the help. As it happens, I have found them mis-labelled as 'LCE' in naval orders of battle for Normandy, but LCT(E) was definitely the correct designation and is the designation written by Harry on the back of his photo in 1945 (I've mislaid the full LCT number at present, but will get it tomorrow).

Personal logo Mishima Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2009 12:13 p.m. PST

Ok, I'll keep digging, there is all sorts of abbreviations all over the internet LCE, LCT(E) etc.
Let us know any more info you can get and hopefully someone can help.

Personal logo Mishima Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2009 12:17 p.m. PST

ah, have it
"Repair and Supply Craft:
LCT(E) Landing Craft, Tank (Emergency Repair)"

link

unfortunately the other cd was 9.99, this one is 24.99….!

R Mark Davies05 Oct 2009 12:18 p.m. PST

I've noticed that there was indeed a US Navy LCE, but I can't find the specifics. Maybe the RN LCT(E) is the same thing as a USN LCE?

Personal logo Mishima Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2009 12:23 p.m. PST

found this on combined ops.


link

"After I left 318 she was converted to Engineering Repair Craft HMLCT(E) 318 and later still to Maintenance and Repair Craft 1097."


the site has a picture of MRC 1097 taken in 1970 – no idea of what changes there was between LCT(E) and MRC though.

picture


[edit]
also from 6juin1944.com

link

claims to be info on the Landing BARGE, emergency repair, but the ship diagram looks very much like an LCT!

R Mark Davies05 Oct 2009 12:36 p.m. PST

Cheers Mishima!

I missed that reference to LCT 18 being converted to an LCT(E) on the Combined Ops site. There certainly appears to be a lot of superstructure added in that photo.

Re the LBE – that's definitely a barge (note the very curved lines). I've come aross LBEs during my searches.

R Mark Davies05 Oct 2009 12:38 p.m. PST

Mishima,

I missed your earlier post re the CD-ROM! Ah, thanks a lot! I'm sure I can afford that :o)

Mark

Personal logo Mishima Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2009 12:43 p.m. PST

no worries. [edit] bear in mind that pic was taken 2 years later after it was converted again….. :)


It is also in the 1985 book Allied landing craft of World War Two By U S Navy Dept, Arthur David Baker on page Page 54. (Search on Google Books) and it shows a part of the page, unfortunately you can't see the whole ship….

link

let us know how you get on, I'm back to modelling a Swift Boat!!!!

Personal logo Mishima Supporting Member of TMP12 Oct 2009 12:42 p.m. PST

R Mark Davies
Any update? Did you find what you need?
all the best – Tim

R Mark Davies12 Oct 2009 2:25 p.m. PST

Hi Tim,

Thanks for asking! I've been up to my proverbials in funerals and a college course this last week, but I'm going to look more into it at the weekend.

Regards,

Mark

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