"Skirmish WWII rules for newbies ..." Topic

It boggles my mind that a set of historical rules will change to make certain models more useful because they aren't selling well, or because they are the latest big product push for the company.

No, they'll just box up more obscure action such as Burma,etc.

Suferdude to be honest I don't want to play games with lots of sub 16's. Done kids got the Tee shirt. I am happy for kids to come with their parents and "play" nicely (which some do and its great). I do not want my spare quiet time to be with sub 16 kids whose interests are different to mine. To me newbies are over 16 with an interest in history. Workshop and kids clubs are not what or where I am and with the new rules on supervison kids learning on their own is never going to happen.

Ush … neither do I to be honest … in fact I only want to play with people who play NUTS or AA Force on Force. A group of us were talking of playing FOW as they don't want to get their heads round NUTS or FoF and one of them said "why isn't there a skirmish game like FoW … I'd play that". When I tried to explain the error of his ways it got me thinking as to why there isn't one.

Now RoE has to be the closest – it has all the ingredients and is even backed by box sets of figs etc … it plays well (I enjoy it)and the guys have worked their socks off around the shows etc … so I was trying to figure what was missing. The only thing I can think of is the lack of real advertising and exposure in hobby shops as opposed to wargame shops etc.

Rich

Money is the major factor in becoming big in any market.

money and exposure in hobby shops, hobby magazines, game shops and game cons. so, i gotta agree with stuart, money, money, money. then location, location, location.

What I am wondering about is why there has never been a set of rules that has got very popular for 1:1 skirmish games, like say FOW for based company stuff.

Cash… and lots of money…

Mike

There may not be a big market. If you want to sell figures a skirmish game needs only a few figures and really no or very few vehicals especially obscure ones. Therfore the sales opertuities for growth are small. Hence it is of interest to players not commecial interests. Plus figs cannot be sold for more than say £2.00 GBP each except to a lunatic few, and vehicals can go easily for 4 or more times that. If you wanted to sel large numbers you waould make a skirmish game, call it a company game and sell lots of vehicals. Unrealistic game but sells lots of models.

Perhaps a building manufactrer could make big on sales in a skimish if gamers would part money for a decent set of buidings, say 20+ buildings for a skimish set.