"GZG 15mm New Israeli - All New Sculpts!" Topic

Take a first look at the new scuplts for GZG's popular New Israeli range on Dropship Horizon: link

Cheers
Mark

Mark,

Those look very nice!

I will be ordering a bunch of those, when they are available for purchase, to go with the others I have.

Finally, a figure in a semi-crouched, firing pose, as if trying to avoid incoming fire. They have a lot more character to them than the standard poses of troops just standing around, looking bored, as if nothing is happening on the battlefield.

It appears someone is listening to our feedback on our wants lists, which is always a good thing.

Looking forward to seeing mortar troops, and other heavy weapons, etc. Can't wait to see other pics of them.

Would love to see some running troops as well. Hopefully those will be made too.

More pics please.

I also hope to see similar poses for the UNSC, light and heavy vacc suit troops, and the other ranges as well, in addition to the new, small flying drones Jon is working on.

Best regards,

Rob

AAAAHHHH!!! So many awesome minis coming out in 15mm!
Gonna have to get a second job to support my habit! ; )

These are very nice!

They look great! I hope this means we'll be getting more sculpts of some of the other ranges too.

I love the fact that GZG always provides the buyer more than just walking or marching poses.

The GZG figures always look like they are ready to get into the action!

CC

Yeah, but I can't help love these Nano Suit guys (and gals!) from Rebel Minis: picture

Now if they are successful enough that Mike can do some in semi-crouching firing poses etc……I wouldn't need any other figures.

Cheers
Mark
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Gotta love Rebel too! Rebel's figure proportions are dead on.

CC

"Yeah, but I can't help love these Nano Suit guys (and gals!) from Rebel Minis: picture

Now if they are successful enough that Mike can do some in semi-crouching firing poses etc……I wouldn't need any other figures".

That would be nice, as long as they do some prone, and running figures, and some support troopers as well, too.

Sadly, no one is doing, or has done any futuristic looking rocket-belted, or grav-belted troopers in flight, for use with Grav Tanks, while on aerial patrol, other than a few by 15mm.co.uk, if I recall correctly.

I would like to see some of those done, e.g. in light body armor suits, holding plasma rifles, while flying. Onboard auto-pilot technology that responds to voice commands permits safe, hands-free flight in the future. Think the GZG light vacc suit troops, with rocket/grav backpacks or belts, and with two-handed plasma rifles held at the ready, or firing.

Can't remember where I saw it, but there was a drawing of some troopers like that, on patrol at substantial height, amidst skyscrapers, and supported by grav IFV's, or tanks, flying between the buildings.

That image has always stuck with me as to how high-tech infantry will operate in the future.

It is probably a Traveller, or Striker rules image from the past.

Another use for such troopers, if they had packs, would be for Battletech style Jump Troopers.

-Eli

The new GZG NIs do look excellent. I second the wish for support weapons and the UNSC troopers to be done the same too.

The NIs and UNSC would do very nicely as Traveller Zhodani and Imperial marines respectively. With the two types of grav tanks from GZG as well, we'd be sorted for Fifth Frontier War battles then.

Trev

PS. this might be the pic you mean Rob.
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PPS Cheers for the updates Mark. Dropship Horizon is now required reading for all 15mm SF gamers.

Ah yes, you are correct, that is the image.

I thought it was a black and white drawing, but maybe there are several copies of it floating around.

The colored one is superb.

Those are the troops I want for my planetary assaults, in order to crush the rebellion, and restore order to the galaxy.

I wonder why no one has produced anything like them?

UNSC troopers would work, if properly outfitted with the rocket or grav packs, and other kit.

Hopefully, at least one manufacturer will read this, and produce some proper drop troopers for us soon.

These new figs look great! I wonder how many new figs Rebel, Gzg, 15mm.co.uk and the new companies have released in the last year? Sure seems like a load!

Thanks,

John

Sadly, no one is doing, or has done any futuristic looking rocket-belted, or grav-belted troopers in flight, for use with Grav Tanks, while on aerial patrol, other than a few by 15mm.co.uk, if I recall correctly.

I would like to see some of those done, e.g. in light body armor suits, holding plasma rifles, while flying. Onboard auto-pilot technology that responds to voice commands permits safe, hands-free flight in the future. Think the GZG light vacc suit troops, with rocket/grav backpacks or belts, and with two-handed plasma rifles held at the ready, or firing.

Can't remember where I saw it, but there was a drawing of some troopers like that, on patrol at substantial height, amidst skyscrapers, and supported by grav IFV's, or tanks, flying between the buildings.

Wouldnt they be a bit exposed to fire?

But i agre there dont seem to be any anti grav drop troop types, wheteher they can be used as jet packs or not. I realy liked the picture on the front of the Hellfire (i think?)rules. Thats my idea of drop troops.

Mounting figures like that on transparent acrylic rod would look awesome!

I have always liked the NI best even in 28mm (i've been painting some in the last few days). I might have to get some of these for 15mm space hulk type crawls even though i am resisiting fulll blown 15mm (too many 28mm vehicles/figures already) Outstanding!

"But i agre there dont seem to be any anti grav drop troop types, wheteher they can be used as jet packs or not. I realy liked the picture on the front of the Hellfire (i think?)rules. Thats my idea of drop troops."

So, who else would like to see "flying" pose grav-pack troops? That is, who would actually BUY enough to make it viable for us to do them?

If we did, for example, some of our UNSC hardsuit troops with jump/grav packs, in flight poses….?

Over to you guys – if we get enough response, then I'll seriously consider it!

Jon (GZG)

I will! I too am gaming Traveller. So, UNSC are my Imperial battledress drop troops. Support weapons and grav packs would be awesome! (that way I don't have to cut their feet from the bases as I ahd planned…).

I have yet to buy the necessary vehicles in 15mm, but if you do the grav troops Jon, I can get them all in one go (along with space suited figures).

Quick question, while we're here:
Will any of the new 15mm stuff be transfered down to 6mm? (it would be incredible to be able to have 15mm and 6mm setups of the same army…)

I'll purchase at least a full platoon of 32 – 40 troops, or more, depending upon the poses (more poses means more figures purchased. I prefer at least a minimum of four poses, if possible, in flight). Say two different poses with blaster/plasma rifles at the ready, searching while on patrol; one with it shouldered as if firing at a target; and one with an anti-tank weapon/bazooka/anti-fighter rocket launcher for integral squad support and defense (say one figure out of an eight pack).

Troops in flight mode, and standing on the ground, as if just landed, both with backpacks on, would be great. Separate packs of flying and standing troops would be nice.

UNSC and New Israelis would be perfect for a start.

As an alternative, you could just make backpacks to add on to the regular troop poses you produce- that way, almost any figures from your infantry ranges can have flight capability, e.g. Light and Heavy Vacc Suit troopers, NSL, etc.

Ideally, Drop/Jump troopers for a couple of forces would be perfect, so the mobile troops can go up against one another.

No need to sculpt on any rocket exhausts like some have done in the past – you can just use polyfiber filling, if desired, for that.

I plan to mount mine to a base, and to use very thin spring-steel wire to support them above the ground. It is so thin that if painted to match the background, it should almost disappear when looking at them from a distance.

For transport, I will probably make them detachable, but just drilling a hole into the bottom of the backpacks, so they can be removed from the rods when carrying and storing them.

As for their vulnerability, yes, in drop mode, or free flight they are vulnerable to AA fire, but proper tactics can help with that, e.g. use of stealthsuits and decoys upon entry from space, or being dropped from low altitude by fast-flying shuttle/assault boats in the atmosphere (say 300 feet or so above the planet's surface). Fire support will also help neutralize the enemy's AA weapons.

Dropping into hot zones may be done for critical targets, but it is better to drop away from the strongest defenses, and to approach stealthily at low level, using terrain to cover your movements.

Troops will tend to hug the terrain, just like the grav tanks do, but are much more mobile than ordinary ground troops, so can attack critical positions at will (they can fly at around 120 MPH/200 KPH). Essentially, foot troops are basically immobile targets, unless they have access to vehicles, since they move much more slowly (5 MPH, or so, over any distance).

Wouldnt they be a bit exposed to fire?

Not with their stealth suits and refraction shields, silly. ;)

Exactly…..

Yes I'd buy UNSC hardsuit troops with jump/grav packs.

UNSC hardsuit troops are a decent option for representing Traveller TL15 Battle Dressed Imperial Marines in 15mm. If there were more hardsuit trooper models available, I expect they'd sell particularly well to the Traveller crowd.

I believe so too, and there are thousands of people who are into that game, or were at one time.

I think many dropped out due to a lack of miniatures, but with all the new stuff being released, it might enjoy a substantial renaissance.

I painted my UNSC to be Imperial Marines as well…now I just have to decide what to use as Imperial Army..I have some of the OOP RAFM guys..the New Israelis (who look like the image of Imperial Army in Combat Armor) and the new Critical Mass Arc Fleet Recon guys. Many say the NI make great Zhos…I am inclined to agree, but I still want to find good stuff for the Imperial Army. Opinions?

The new NI troops look fantastic-- and the ones I own now are already damn good.

Jon, will you be doing a full range of NI troopers like you did with NAC? That is, Command/Comm, Heavy Weapon, Missile/Sniper, etc?

The Infiltrators look nice too.

They were just recently released, and only show blaster-type pistols, but supposedly two-handed weapons are coming.

I hope we will see a full range of New Israeli troops, like was done for the NAC. Just waiting to have them listed, before purchasing them.

AAAAHHHH!!! So many awesome minis coming out in 15mm!
Gonna have to get a second job to support my habit! ; )

Quoted for truth.

"Jon, will you be doing a full range of NI troopers like you did with NAC? That is, Command/Comm, Heavy Weapon, Missile/Sniper, etc?"

Yes, there will be a full range coming as quickly as our sculptor can do them…. the new riflemen poses are just the start! :-)

Jon (GZG)

I hope the UNSC and NI Drop/Jump Troopers can be moved up in the production queue.

Without bases needed for them, they should be more economical to produce than standard troops.

Separate bases can be provided, for those that want/need them, just like the mini aerial drones you are designing/producing.

The GZG figures always look like they are ready to get into the action!

Let's not get carried away. A little bit rose tinted I think. Eg: picture

But by Crom we are getting there! picture

Cheers
Mark

We wants them my precious!

:-D

> Yes, there will be a full range coming

Fantastic!

"But i agre there dont seem to be any anti grav drop troop types, wheteher they can be used as jet packs or not. I realy liked the picture on the front of the Hellfire (i think?)rules. Thats my idea of drop troops."

So, who else would like to see "flying" pose grav-pack troops? That is, who would actually BUY enough to make it viable for us to do them?

If we did, for example, some of our UNSC hardsuit troops with jump/grav packs, in flight poses….?

Over to you guys – if we get enough response, then I'll seriously consider it!

Jon (GZG)

If 15mm had been such a winner when i started in sci fi gaming definitely! But i dont see myself pushing out the boat into 15mm at the moment. too many 25-28mm figures and vehicles. that is not to say i wouldnt buy a pack (like i have the NI) if i really like them, but i wouldnt be buying the legions (well platoon) that i would if i was doing 15mm in lieu of 25mm)

I think they are a good concept though, as they lend themselves to all sorts of scenarios lifted directly from WW2 paratroop ops, in addition to even more futuristic "grav troops through skyscrapers" concepts.

One great thing about 15mm is that it's extremely affordable to get a good army going.

Just to weigh in on the jump packs: I've been thinking about this a lot, since it comes up a lot. The trick is, if are blithely flying around on the battlefield, you probably will die pretty fast. But that's not how you use jump troops.

A grav pack is a device that you use as a parachute: it's like a HALO pack squared and cubed, without the canopy advertising your presence to the world. On the ground, you mostly stay on your feet and use cover just like any infantryman. Jumping gives you the ability to jump obstacles and skim over rough or impassible terrain. It lets you get away with feats that wouldn't be tactically feasible for normal infantry to jump or climb with (like scaling up or down a building or cliff). In an urban setting, the ability to zip straight up to an upper-story window means you can coordinate entry with troops entering at ground level, making a building much harder to defend.

And of course it's pretty much mandatory equipment for fighting in freefall.

Jon, I'd buy a platoon's worth of flying grav belt infanty.

I'll wager that Clambo would too.

Mark? The nice man wants to know if you'd buy flying Imperial Marines :)

Keith F.

Mark? The nice man wants to know if you'd buy flying Imperial Marines :)

If the minis looked good, yeah! Some of my favourite 15mm Sci Fi minis are my Asgard flying Space Marines bought back in circa 1979-1980:

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Cheers
Mark
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