"Green Stuff" Topic

I know this is like a movie buff admitting to having never watched Citizen Kane but I must confess that I don't have any green stuff and don't know a ton about it. Just wondering where the best place to get it online is and whether or not it is the same stuff that mini sculptors use to make greens. Thanks.

ALV

Green stuff is more common, but other sculptors use brown stuff and the blue/white stuff as well.
You can find them many places online, just Google kneadatite or green stuff and you'll find lots of places selling it.

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Most sculptors I know use Green Stuff, but some are switching to the Brown Stuff or FIMO/Sculpey.

Some other materials sculptors use is Milliput, this is what was used "back in the day". I like the Terracotta and Black since I do a lot of straight-line work. Cures rock hard so you can file, sand or even lathe it.

Milliput also has a silver/grey and white that a lot of modellers use as well.

milliput.co.uk/home.htm

You can also try the Tamiya putties, but they are more expensive and you get less, but they are very good for plastic kits and vehicles. I mostly use Tamiya putties for making "blanks" or flattened sheets of putty.

If you want something very inexpensive and with a much longer working time you can try FIMO or Sculpey. They are both 1 part clays, no mixing needed, but they do require you to fire them in an oven to sure them.

A lot of the former sculptors from Rackham use FIMO, you can get a great amount of detail using that stuff.

Also, if you do try FIMO or Sculpey, you will need to clean off the surface periodically if you are layering the putty on, uncured FIMO/Sculpey does not like to stick to cured FIMO/Sculpey.

Really there are a ton of materials out there, the best thing to do is pick some up or borrow a bit from a friend and try them out.

FIMO and Sculpey you can get from most arts and crafts stores, they are pretty common.

One of the sculptors I work with swears by the Kneadatite Brown Stuff and despises Green Stuff, but I prefer the Green.

It's really a matter of preference.

I use green stuff for most of a figurine but if theres an intricate bit like a rifle or certain pistol or ornate sword I find brown stuff better for those bits as it dries hard and nice and crisp- and you can file and sand it,which you can't with green stuff.
I find generally for best results a mixture of mediums and the use of brass or aluminium tube or rod from most model shops for things like weapon parts,gun barrels etc..

I get mine from Heresy here in the U.K. but you can get it quite easily in the states- I think Jeff Valent does it.

I mainly do conversions--added a cape, for example--so I don't use a whole lot of green stuff. It keeps quite well in the freezer compartment of my refrigerator (had to warn my wife it was there, and why, of course).
I was told that the best way to add a cape to a figure was to use brown stuff as a base, and once it had dried, add detail with green stuff.
As to where to get it, it is basically a two part epoxy adhesive used by plumbers, but I wouldn't know which brand to send you to. A pricier solution is to buy it from a miniature company at your local hobby store, which is what I do. In my area, it is available at stores selling Games Workshop and Reaper, both of whom repackage and sell it with their name on it, and (he said, running for cover, hands over head) the GW packages actually give you more for your money. Packaging changes from time to time, so YMMV.
Grelber

If you buy it from somewhere like here:

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You will get more of it and/or for less money than if you buy the re-packaged stuff from places like GW or Gale Force 9.

They've got the Greenstuff (Kneadatite), brownstuff, and the more recent ProCreate.

All three are used by professional sculptors for greating their figures, as well as many of us (less talented, in my case) hobbyists for conversions, gap filling and other uses.

The best thing to do is just get some and try it out. Each has different properties, so acts a bit difference. People have various preferences, and put them to different uses.

You should be able to find quite a few sculpting articles online. Here's one spot I know of, to get you started:

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Sorry, but GW or Reaper do not offer you better pricing on green stuff.

GW sells 20g packets for $10.00, you can get much more by buying the tubes at online stores like Fantization, Fortress Figures or Gale Force 9. The tubes they sell are 100g tubes that run from $12.99-$19.99.

For the Reaper putty, it's just as expensive. You only get a 6" strip that costs $7.49!

The problem with buying the strips like the ones GW and Reaper sells, is that the center line of the putty, where the blue and yellow meet, can start to cure so you lose material that you pay for.

The tubes keep the two parts separate.

If you can, buy the larger "tubs" like I have. I got mine from the company the GW buys from in bulk, Exchem. Each tub is about the size of a Coke can, one for blue, one for yellow.

Hi

I buy my strip epoxy (green and brown) at the local hardware store or "dollar" store, usually a buck a pack.

for larger "putty" applications, I go to auto supply stores and use Bondo, susually 2 bucks for a large tube.

Rocky

Thanks everybody.