"KLIR the right stuff ?" Topic

Hello,
I'm starting with magic wash. Can't say the results are very satisfying. I did the stock 1:1 "Klir" and water. Klir is what Johnson's Future Floor Polish is called here (France), or at least that's what it says everywhere. I don't have much reason to doubt that … but still. So:
1) I've been using W&N black ink, trying several doses of that. Most of the time it pools, makes black rings, or just dirties the figure. I've had to paint over time and again!
2) The only mix that doesn't do that is almost no ink, I wonder what the point is …
3) Klir is perfumed!!! Having my soldiers smell of flowers is debatable, but the stuff goes off, and has a VERY strange smell it would take too long to describe here.
4) Klir is not transparent, but whitish translucent stuff. Sometimes on black (yeah I know, what's the purpose of doing black magic wash on black … but it's not really black, is it?) it will accumulate in the crevices and go white.
I've been using it on: varnished enamels, acrylics (model color, Prince August)
Am I using the right stuff ? Is there something wrong with the way I use it ? Help!!!

Bonjour.

Ceci peut etre utile?

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Please pardon my dreadful French

One minor point; not sure if it's what's causing you problems:

W&N black ink is a proper India ink, and is a different formula from their others. I use W&N peat brown, and don't have many problems.

Part of the problem may be the surface, especially if the ink wash is "dirtying" the figure. That may be due to the "tooth" of the paint or primer. Try a thin coat of just dilute Klir (no ink) and then apply the ink wash. That should keep the suspended ink from being "grabbed" by the surfaces.

The Complete Future site that Connard suggests is pretty much up-to-date, except that it does not show that the Dutch have received a new product which is also milky. But you can see from the reports of similar milky products in Israel and Russia that it should dry clear. And the new formulations do seem to be scented, but others have noted on various hobby sites that this goes sway in time.

Allen

Thanks Sage, but that's my point: the pacakaging I've got is exactly the same as on the picture (only it says under "1 litre" "Formule Haute Protection". Would that be a new formula?), but the content doesn't look at all like what's on the picture of the stuff, which looks nice, clear and transparent.

Thanks for the info Aercurtis. I'll give it a go at the week end, and of course, dutifully report the results

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