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Aidancw19 Jul 2009 4:33 p.m. PST

hey… again (i have many a question for modern…. it's my first time)

well now i have my painting scheme ready and i need Afghani terrain. I would like to preferably build it but i dont what the terrain/ buildings look like….. i sort of have a picture but probably is inaccurate.

Captain Apathy19 Jul 2009 5:46 p.m. PST

Good question. Here is a nice link for some generic Middle Eastern style buildings.

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For buildings particular to Afghanistan try these

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cloudcaptain19 Jul 2009 6:09 p.m. PST

Use google images and check various Afghan cities. The Guild also has lots of ideas in the terrain section.

Jay Arnold19 Jul 2009 6:15 p.m. PST

Mud brick ranges in color from buff to khaki to more red shades as well. Cinder block is possible, but rare in remote areas. Cinder block is painted.

Buildings in the same compound or village will more often than not be the same color. Some might be whitewashed (rare).

More often government buildings or mosques may be painted. Mosques may also have blue domes. Occasionally a pattern will be painted on the building simulating irregular stonework. The individual "rocks" will often be different shades of brown ranging from buff to chocolate. This is rare, however.

Graffiti is evident in some cases, often a political party advertisement and usually only on walls facing major roads. Also, businesses will have their signs hand painted, often crudely, but professionally produced signs are common in the bigger towns and cities.

Most buildings in villages or separate compounds will more often than not have domes on them to shed water. The domes may be circular at the base, or oblong, depending on the shape of the building. The rainy season lasts two or three months and my experience this year was it rained every other day for the month of April and half of May.

There are few windows. Chimneys may be evident, usually looking like a monk's cowl sticking out of the apex of a dome. Small holes in compound walls at ground level are evident as well. Possibly to allow the passage of small animals and children. I haven't asked any locals.

Compound perimeters are more often than not rectangular, however I have seen irregularly shaped compounds. This is probably due to topography on a micro level or even some issue known only to the inhabitants of the village/district. Walls are usually arrow straight, but curved walls are possible.

Compound yards might have rather lush gardens bordering on small farm plots. Fruits, vegetables, even grains are grown. Trees are evident in many of them as well, some bearing fruit. Compound walls may be up to 10 feet high, although I have seen waist-high walls, as well, especially around larger agricultural plots.

Compound entrances will be shuttered with a metal door, custom-fit made by a local metal wright out of angled or tubular steel and sheet metal. These are often painted. Indeed, it may be the only color on the compound. Red, blue, green, any color you can imagine is used. Sometimes these are vehicle-width, but usually just big enough for a person to pass.

In villages, compound walls will butt up right against the street (using the word street very liberally here). There are usually ditches and 5-10 yards of ground between major (i.e. paved) roads and compound walls.

Antennae ranging from over-the-air television antennae to satellite dishes are evident. You have your choice of a small gasoline or diesel powered generator or a stack of batteries powered by the family Toyota for electrical power in the villages.

"Running" water consists of running to the ditch out front or to the town well.

These direct observations definitely apply to villages and separate compounds in Herat and Farah Provinces. I'd guess they apply to the rest of the country, as well. Of course, regional differences will apply. Larger towns and cities require a more in-depth study then I'm prepared to give at the moment. Afghan National Army and Afghan National Police stations, outposts and checkpoints deserve a separate study as well.

Hope this helps.

Joep12319 Jul 2009 6:35 p.m. PST

Nice info everyone, especially Jay, thanks for sharing.
Thanks to Aidancw for the question too, as I was just wondering the same thing.

I was looking over some of the offerings from Paper Terrain at H-Con and was wondering how the desert village would fit in with Afghanistan.
Joep

Jay Arnold19 Jul 2009 6:44 p.m. PST

The Middle Eastern Village might do, but too many multi-story buildings for modern Afghanistan. The Mosque is too well decorated to be anywhere but a city.

But, we're not recreating reality, we're creating the impression of reality, so, yeah, it'd work. I'd put more compound walls around the huts, regardless, though.

Toaster19 Jul 2009 8:03 p.m. PST

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Check it out for some great cork tile mid east buildings.

Robert

Buzzard Keeper19 Jul 2009 11:23 p.m. PST

Aidancw,

I'd recommend you have a look at the AA Forum and the Guild, there are some really good pictures of other peoples terrain and some pretty good tutorials on how they made them.

Darren

Cerberus031120 Jul 2009 6:02 a.m. PST

From pictures that a friend took while in country up in the north.

Flat roofs even with the top of the structure are common. Some of the homes built up on the mountainsides are built into the mountain side. Think a look of an sod home on the American plains and the look is very close.

On one walk up in the mountains they came across a small log cabin that was used by goat herders. Started looking around and found four others close by.

Tents are also popular with the herders and having one set up on the outskirts of town is not unheard of.

Jay Arnold gave you the rest of the best advice.

Have fun!

Cacadores24 Jul 2009 2:51 p.m. PST

Typical Afghani rural compound towns.

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Don't forget, some areas are pretty lush too, full of grass and trees, for instance around the Helmand river.

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Andy ONeill25 Jul 2009 1:38 a.m. PST

There's two series of "Ross Kemp in Afghanistan". I strongly recommend them, even if your interest is purely in US military.
The first series was recently repeated on SKY.
You can buy DVD. Probably fileshare via bittorrent if they're not available locally or you want to be sure they're worth buying.

Anyhow these show compounds and give an impression of the varied terrain.
The sort of long domed bits on rooves look like they'd be a bit of a challenge and I'm not sure whether I'll eventually just go for flat for practicality sake.

The fighting is largely in the "green zone" where the majority live and there's of course more cover.
If you're new to moderns combat but think you know roughly how it works then this series might well be an eye opener.

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