"Best place to sit out the coming apocalypse?" Topic

What are the best places in the world to sit out the apocalypse (food crisis, world wide economic collapse, SARS virus) etc ?

I'm in a terrible place – Bangladesh is waaaaaaaay over populated and imports food. I suppose New Zealand would be pretty good; it is an Island, it is under populated, it can be self sufficient in terms of food.

You could try the town I grew up in. Nothing ever happens there, or ever will.

Sounds like you grew up in the same place I did clibinarium.

In the case of a zombie apocalypse, Nick Frost recommends finding your nearest oil rig (as seen in "Danger: 50,000 Zombies").

Doesn't the type of apocalypse really dictate where you'd like to be?

Well, there are some constants. You need food. Over the long haul you need to grow your own food.

If many other people are alive, and resources are scarce, you have to have a defensible location.

The Scottish Isles – preferably something small, defensible and close to the mainland like Kerrera; it's got a nice castle too.
I'd happily start the apocalypse myself if it meant I could have Kerrera!

Didn't we discuss this a couple of weeks back?

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Well, now that I have had time to think about it – again, depending on the nature of the apocalypse, a place like New Zealand would be ideal – in fact, in many novels about post-apocalypse Earth, New Zealand is sort of a world super power (the Kiwis would find it uncomfortable at first, but they would adapt)

I think I would take my little clan to the heart of the Mennonite farming country north of where I live – the old Order Mennonites still farm with pre-industrial techniques, so growing food is no problem – but, being good God-fearing Christians, they avow violence – so, to deal with those hordes of crazed refugees, they need someone willing to get a bit medieval (that's where my sons and I can step in – especially my son the cop)

"being good God-fearing Christians, they avow violence"

A Freudian slip?

I'm with Lovejoy, Kerrara is brilliant, plenty of sheep (for food). Near enough to Oban to loot the distillery. Maybe a little too close to the mainland but the zombies won't make it across.

I reckon Kerrera should be big enough for both of us, Buff. But I might have to bring a pig or two as well – mutton's OK, but after a hard day fighting off zombies for a crate of single malt, I'll be needing a bacon sandwich…

Any decent building would do. Pick an office building near a decent water source, river/lake, and brick up all the 1st/2nd floor accesses. picture A davit or crane will allow for easy water access. Surround your compound with shipping containers. picture And have accesses that require problem solving, combo locks, sliding ladders, swinging across an open pit, firepoles, counter balanced ramps, cargo nets, etc..

The real problems would be social I would think. All survivors would become ultra paraniod not knowing if the person next to you will die in their sleep and become a zombie. I suspect most people would be fine with waking hours social contact but would be multi stage lock down for sleepy time. That way if someone dies in their sleep they are still isolated from the community.

Small dogs or geese would be good for watching the parameters, loud and eat less.

Lots of intelligent traps…if you can think you can make it across, but if you are a mindless zombie then you will not see the pattern painted on the deck or read the warnings painted on the floor/wall.

Grow vegis on top of the containers and the roof top. Mushrooms in the dark cool basement. Turn a couple containers on their sides, seal with common truck bed liner from the inside and make fresh water cashes, swimming pools (there has to be some fun and down time), and fish/crayfish/crab breeding tanks. Chickens; eggs. Goats: meat/milk/fertilizer. Fruit would be a priority so it would depend on where your compound was…or deal with traders. (I could see a smart citris farmer fencing in his farm with zombies on the inside, use a protected picker truck, throw in the badguys, and use them to protect his investment :)

So there you go.

Wal-Mart. Guns, ammo, canned food, vitamins, bottled water and you will never have to wear the same outfit two days in a row.
Book selection sucks, though.

Clean out the freezers first, though. When the power dies, you don't want to get too near the not-frozen-any-more shrimp.

When the end of the world comes, come to Cincinnati. We still get everything 10 yrs after every one else.

The toilet?

Oh..you said sit out the coming apocalypse. Sorry.

Euuuwe you have the apocalypse inside you!? What the heck did you eat!?

No worries. There will be no apocalypse today.

A submarine. Whether it's "Crossed", the Triffids, slow OR fast zombies, or even a pandemic or some sort, a big US Nuclear submarine is shielded against all sorts of attacks, has food and resources to last a long time, and plenty of arms for the crew if we need to land somewhere to get stuff (food, equipment, parts, women…)

Anywhere where a film/TV crew isn't!

All the bad stuff happens when there is a camera around, doesn't it?

AS

Since Heinrich Heine said (in the 19th century already !) that things in Holland always happen fifty years later, I see no reason to move. Even if the apocalypse DID happen today, I would have (almost) enough time left to paint my figures.

The Wal-Mart Central Distribution Warehouse here in Las Vegas.
It is seven stories tall, windowless, has one double door in front, a loading dock surrounded by two 30' razorwire-topped hurricane fences, and it is encased in shining sheet metal siding.
It supplies all of the Wal-Mart store here in Southern Nevada.

Corner the market on vices. Apocalypse or no, people trade dearly for their vices.

"being good God-fearing Christians, they avow violence"

A Freudian slip?

No, it's just that they are ACTUAL Christians

I'm up in Minnesota north of the twin cities, on a small farm little neighbors, grow my own veggies and have goats, rabbits, and chickens, nice growing season, have a well and a generator, winter hits and everyone wants to be inside so six months of the year is covered rarely see anyone then. Unless you go out looking for them. summer is the only time I have to worry about, my thought is everyone would have left for warmer climates.

28mmMan like the idea of surrounding a compound with shipping containers now I have to just convince the wife it's a good idea, have plenty of firearms and ammo, food in storage, and other thing to include all the hardwear for making moonshine.

Yeah a few shipping containers some rebar, some wood forms place here and there in the right places, and pour some concrete, and presto "BUNKER"
I have all ways have had an idea for a fortress made of shipping containers.

"No, it's just that they are ACTUAL Christians"

Avow means to unabashedly affirm or endorse. You perhaps meant disavow.

Alxbates the idea of a sub is interesting but there are a few small issues…everyone on the sub has a purpose, so little to no room for non-coms and dependants…the provisions are still somewhat limited, the store of dry/can/dehyrdated is as large as it can be (usually set for 1 year) but that is considering fairly regular inputs of the fresh stuff…without any input the stores would go much quicker…

All in all being under water might be a great idea though… picture

If zombies are dead and really don't need air couldn't they just walk out to your sea lab and get you.

Hey what a great idea trapped under the sea with zombies not only do you need to survive you need to get the sub going or plan some kind of escape from your sea lab.

You would ave little to worry about. They can't see you, smell you, or hear you. They can barely walk I so doubt they can swim. Being dead they are full of gas, they would float.

A small self propelled dive unit would get me far far away quite fast.

I suspect it would be a great escape. :)

Well yeah think if zombies were to bite sharks and anything else with sharp teeth. Do you open the chamber door to flood the compartment to escape from the zombies with in, or to take your chances with zombie sharks we don't know if they are really zombies for sharks don't get cancer so maybe they might be immune.

New Zealand gets my vote, or Tasmania, Australia or the South Pole. Can't get much more remote from destruction than that. Of course, the food shipments would stop to the South Pole (on the down side).

John the OFM said, "walmart" – Shop smart… shop S-Mart.

In the real case of an actual apocalyptic event I would head to one of the most inhospitable/least populated places in the USA and avoid the h#ll of the collapsing society. Providing I survive the primary and secondary kills of that event. I would vanish in that environment and wait it all out. I would never be seen… My closest friends say I'm part ghost & part mountain lion when I'm out in good old mother nature.

Lots of training to fall back on.