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donlowry29 Jun 2009 1:28 p.m. PST

I recently acquired some 1:285-scale trucks on ebay, and there are some that I don't recognize. I'd appreciate it if the truck experts among us would give them a look and let me know what I've got:

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Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian29 Jun 2009 1:35 p.m. PST

Just variations on standard trucks. IIRC the Opel had a plywood cab in one production (late war)

Cold Steel29 Jun 2009 2:04 p.m. PST

The first on is a US M35(?) 5 ton truck with hard top cab, circa 80s and 90s. The 2d appears to be the GMC version of the WW2 deuce and a half.

Plynkes29 Jun 2009 2:22 p.m. PST

First one looks more like an M135 or M211 post-war GMC to me, though I admit I am far from sure. It lacks the distinctive angular wings of the M35 REO (they are shaped like one half of a hexagon) and the front end doesn't look right to me. Certainly looks 1950s+ rather than 40s, though, whichever "M" it is.

Second one is indeed a Studebaker (6x4 or 6x6), not a GMC, unless my senses fail me.

The "British" one may well be intended to be a Bedford OY, but if so it is a pretty poor model of one.

Jemima Fawr29 Jun 2009 4:23 p.m. PST

1. Ural 375
2. Studebaker 2.5 tonner
3. Opel Blitz with wooden cab
4. Bedford OY

donlowry29 Jun 2009 4:34 p.m. PST

Mark, what is a Ural 375? Russian? WW2 or post?

Kaoschallenged29 Jun 2009 4:48 p.m. PST

Google and good ole Jane's.

Ural-375D (6 x 6) 4,000 kg truck (Russian Federation), Trucks

Description
The first model of the Ural-375 entered production in 1961. It had an open cab with a canvas top and a stake-type rear cargo body. The second model was the Ural-375A, which had a number of automotive improvements as well as a fully enclosed all-steel cab. The Ural-375A was standardised as the Ural-375D; those with a winch (capacity of 7,000 kg) are designated Ural-375T. The Ural-377 (6 × 4) truck, full details of which can be found elsewhere in this section, uses many components of the Ural-375.The layout of the vehicle is conventional, with the engine at the front, fully enclosed two-door all-steel three-person cab in the centre and the cargo area at the rear with hinged bench-type seats, removable bows and a tarpaulin cover and a drop tailgate. Standard equipment includes a cab heater, an engine preheater and a central tyre inflation (CTI) system.In 1973, a Ural-375D was tested with a YaMZ-740 V-8 water-cooled diesel engine developing 210 hp and used in the KamAZ range of 6 × 4 trucks. With further design revisions this model entered production as the Ural-4320 (6 × 6) 4,500 kg truck. Full details of the Ural 4320 range of trucks can be found elsewhere in this section.Production of the Ural-375D ceased in 1977.

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Robert

donlowry29 Jun 2009 5:21 p.m. PST

Yes, that looks like it: picture

Unfortunately, I'm not into post WW2 stuff.

Thanks for the help, guys!

Plynkes01 Jul 2009 4:17 a.m. PST

Ah, well done. That's why I didn't recognize it. I wouldn't know a Russian truck if you ran me over with one!

donlowry01 Jul 2009 1:27 p.m. PST

So, is the Bedford OY a "portee" that's lost its gun? If so, what kind? (2 pdr?) and who makes/made this model -- it doesn't match anything listed by GHQ or CinC.

Neroon01 Jul 2009 1:42 p.m. PST

Don

I think that it's actually CinC's Bedford 30cwt. I have the Bedford tanker and the cab is identical. The portee mounting looks strictly DIY, as does the crud on the cab roof. The canvas top is also in CinC's style.

Jemima Fawr01 Jul 2009 5:41 p.m. PST

Yes it looks like a 2pdr portee minus the 2pdr.

donlowry01 Jul 2009 5:53 p.m. PST

I found, hiding on one of my bookcases, a Bellona book entitled British Light Military Trucks 1939-1945. It has a section about Bedford 15cwts, but no mention of an OY. The infantry carrier was the MWD, and some, it says, were converted to portees. But these all had cloth "tilts", not metal cabs, as appears on my model -- tho the bonnet (hood to us Yanks) looks very similar.

CinC's site lists (but does not picture) the Bedford 3-ton, Bedford 3cwt (300 pounds? must be a tiny truck! Even a jeep was rated a quarter-ton truck) and a Bedford Tanker, which latter I take to be the MWC, pictured in my book.

Etranger01 Jul 2009 7:00 p.m. PST

Don that probably should be 30cwt as the 3 sounds like a typo (unless it's a wheelbarrow!) – there was also a 15cwt version.

The MWD was a little different from the O series in detail.

link for a list of Bedfords.

GeoffQRF02 Jul 2009 2:20 a.m. PST

I wouldn't know a Russian truck if you ran me over with one!

Check the tyres as it runs you over

donlowry02 Jul 2009 3:01 p.m. PST

I guess if it says "Goodyear" in the Cyrillic alphabet …

donlowry11 Jul 2009 3:50 p.m. PST

OK, another truck question:

Here's a photo of three 1:76-scale trucks that I have. They all appear to be (based on their "bonnets" and grilles) various kinds of Morris light truck. From left to right they came with: a 17-pounder ATG; a 25-pdr gun-howitzer; and a 40mm Bofors AA gun. So I assume they were used to tow those, at least. But what else might they have been used for, and when? For instance, could any of them have been used to tow a 6-pdr ATG? Could any of them have been used to carry rifle squads?

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Etranger12 Jul 2009 6:45 p.m. PST

Correct on the maker Don. The one on the left is the (Matchbox, now Revell) Morris C8, used predominantly as an AT tow with the 17 pounder but which could also tow other guns, such as the 6 pounder. The middle one is the (Airfix) Morris Quad, used with the 25 pounder & the earlier 18/25 pounder. It might occasionally get used with other light artillery & could be seen pulling the 17 pounder ATG sometimes. The Morris LAA tractor (also by Airfix) was used with the Bofors.

All three vehicles were customised for the role, with ammunition lockers etc & were unlikely to be seen much in other roles, although the Afrika Korps used a Quad as a personnel carrier for one. The chassis on the other hand could be used with other bodies & in those configurations seen in other roles.

donlowry12 Jul 2009 6:58 p.m. PST

Thanks!

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