"What else could I use Perry Plastic French for ?" Topic

I have decided to use Victrix French and Perry British to build forces for Sharp Practice in the penninsular, 1808-1811 period.

Today I saw some Perry French in a shop and couldn't stop myself from buying them :-)

I think that the guys in greatcoats will be great for my period (comments welcome) along with the officer in the Surtout. But, what about the rest of the guys ? Can anybody suggest a nation with uniforms approximating to the 1812 Bardin regulations that wore this sort of garb in 1808-1811 and may have been in the area of Spain. Westphalia comes to mind and maybe Baden.

Any suggestions appreciated.

I chopped up my Perry plastic naps and made them into Orks.

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Italians first comes to mind!

Tom Dye
GFI

The Alamo

Dutch.

Wesphalians are a good start. Also many other minor German Allies like the Hessians (Erbprinz regiment) and the Berg contingent. I beleive the Baden regiment sent to Spain eventually adopted the shako, so they might do for them as well.

I don't think they are usable as Italians, as the Italians didn't wear the spencer in the Peninsula.

I am thinking Mexicans a la Mr Wigglesworth – also maybe South American

I really don't care about such things. To me, French are French, British are British, and as long as the colours are generally correct and the flags appropriate, what is the damage?

So you could use the same figures and just paint them different colors?

Like Frederick, I would suggest the South American Wars of Liberation for something a bit different.

Take a look at link for some inspiration.

Conversions for Vistula Legion – mainly the shako plate. picture picture

Ezza: Now that is exactly what I was thinking about! Lots of colourful units, reasonably small armies, plenty of battles

Clay,

What I meant was that, to me, the differences between French 1809 and 1815 are negligible in the great scheme if things, as are British with stovepipe versus belgic shakos.

I'm not going to build different armies (1807, 1812, 1815,) for different periods of the same war. I have neither the time nor the money to do that. :)

Yes, yes, I know: Philistine!

Sigh :)

Yes, yes, I know: Philistine!

No, that's the Ancients Board.

<<I don't think they are usable as Italians, as the Italians didn't wear the spencer in the Peninsula.>>

While it may help you if they didn't, it makes no difference to me as if they DID…..it would not help me roll dice any better! Why let little like that spoil your gaming experience?

BTW, What the hell is a spencer, anyway? 8>)

Tom Dye
GFI

"BTW, What the hell is a spencer, anyway? 8>)"

Waasn't he the British Prime Minister, assassinated in 1812? ;-)

The issue of the 1809/1815 thing is that while we often love to have both, it would be at the expense of having something else.

A person can paint some 1809 French and some 1815 French, never for the two sets to see the same table at the same time…or an 1809 French and something else.

In my case, it's a 'collection'. I try to be as accurate as possible within the group of units that I'm painting.

So yeah, if I could have every unit that ever fought in every version of every uniform every worn, that would be great. But I'm happy with what I've got already so it'll never happen. When somebody around here DOES collect everything…please let us know!

Clay.

Brilliant Orks!

I have my Orks painted up as Colonial redcoats as "Da kumpaney ov twenny fourf Fut. They all wear pith helmets and carry Shootas "Bacardi 'enrys"

Italians, Neopolitans, Westphalians, Saxons, Dutch, SOuth American forces of one description or another, Vistua Legion, Portugeuse Legion. Some may require some slight conversions but nothing drastic. Some of the other Confederation troops as well could wear the uniform…oh Croations too….

Greenryth,
How would you convert the figures to Vistula Légion?
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Regards,

The vistula foot were in the same uniform of the line with pointed cuffs. In the field they would have been indistinguishable from the other line regiments apart from their yellow facings. No conversion would be required in my opinion. less than 2% of the legions foot wore Czapka's if you are that concerned do a head swap. They would probably all have shako's in the field after about 2 weeks campaigning anyway if they ever had czapkas at all. Shako plate is slightly different. 50% of the figures in the Perry's box set have covers on their shako's the rest you could leave or change with minimal fuss with a bit of green stuff. personally I think I would swap out all the ones with shako covers from two or three boxes and put them together.

Almost all Confederation in Spain. I've done some Joseph Spanish (unfortunately sold them). Italians.

actually the lack of crossbelts and a sabre precludes their use for probaly anything else other than Italians and Neopolitans,,and there is a bit of a cuff crisis going on as well..

Portuguese Civil War French Volunteers and 1st Carlist War Isabelino Militia.

Guess what?….As long as you don't shout it from the rooftops around here…NO-ONE WILL EVER KNOW (Or care) if you use 1815 French in a Peninsular game.

They might care but you don't have to care that they care.

I suppose the 1805-1810 Kingdom of Holland is meant by Dutch. Althought there are some differences they indeed could be used.

I done the exact same thing and ended up using them as the Vistula Legion. I also got the Perry Heavy Cavalry at the same time and used them as the 13th Cuirrassier rather than not using them…. But don't tell the wife!!!!