Cacique Caribe | 11 Jun 2009 2:31 p.m. PST |
I had a couple of packs of dark tiles (thick with large granules) and wanted to know how to keep the granules on the edges from breaking off after painting. These are the tiles I mean: link This is all I could find on that, and I wanted to know if anyone else has done that, and if the reinforcement was sufficient and successful: "On the edges, be sure to work the paint into all the low spots, so the strength of the paint will keep the cork granules from coming loose." link If the paint was not enough, what did you use? PVA glue? Something else? Thanks. CC |
ColCampbell | 11 Jun 2009 2:51 p.m. PST |
CC, I have some that I haven't used yet. But I planned on coating the resultant hills with a PVA glue/sand mixture ( and maybe mix in some spackle aslo). That should do the trick, I hope. Jim |
Cacique Caribe | 11 Jun 2009 2:58 p.m. PST |
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Cacique Caribe | 11 Jun 2009 2:59 p.m. PST |
Jim, I was trying to avoid using PVA on the surface, to avoid major warping issues, and just limit it to the edges (which are the sections more prone to crumbling). What do you think of that plan? Thanks. Dan |
GildasFacit | 11 Jun 2009 3:07 p.m. PST |
Neither PVA nor paint will stop edge damage – you need a base to glue the cork onto so that the edge is a tougher material. I just used 2mm MDF and weighted it down while it stuck – no warping problem – but the hills were no more than 150mm across. |
Cacique Caribe | 11 Jun 2009 3:50 p.m. PST |
Hmmm . . . The edges can be pretty jagged: link And when you tear them apart to get the sizes you want, the granules do seem to weaken more along the edge. I was trying to avoid using MDF for this set. However, I've used it before with good results on other projects. I think I used 1/4 inch MDF here, though the hills were made of expanded polystyrene (pink and blue): link CC |
ColCampbell | 12 Jun 2009 6:47 a.m. PST |
Dan, Since I have yet to actually try to use the cork, I am only hypothesizing. Sorry I can't help you more. Jim |
Cacique Caribe | 12 Jun 2009 10:00 a.m. PST |
Jim, I have to go on the road on Sunday, but I'll try to follow your recommendations and let you know how it looks (hopefully take some pictures too). Thanks so much! Dan |
parejkoj | 14 Jun 2009 8:57 p.m. PST |
How big are you making them? I've mounted some on CDs, like this: link and they hold up pretty well. |
Cacique Caribe | 15 Jun 2009 5:37 p.m. PST |
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Cacique Caribe | 17 Jun 2009 1:21 p.m. PST |
I'm out of town on training. But last night I stopped at a local Walmart and bought a pack of the dark cork (four 12" by 12" squares), a hobby knife and cement so I can try to duplicate some stepped hills. Wish me luck. CC |
Nappy29388 | 18 Jun 2009 9:00 a.m. PST |
Make a mold and cast each piece? John |
Cacique Caribe | 19 Jun 2009 4:50 a.m. PST |
Sorry. I didn't mean "duplicate" in the sense of copying an existing product. I really meant that I would go by photos of actual hills and try to duplicate the crevices and such, as I make my stepped hills. CC |
Cacique Caribe | 23 Jun 2009 6:46 a.m. PST |
Ok. I went to Walmart and bought a pack of 4 tiles (around $10 USD here) and went to work. I made two large hills and about 7 boulder "spires" (for lack of a better word), very much like the ones here, but not as high of course: picture After I glued the pieces with plastic cement and allowed them to dry under heavy phone books, I went to work on roughing the edges with a hobby knife and a little contouring. Then I applied 2 heavy coats of straight PVA to seal the surfaces and add strength. The sheets are each 3/8" thick. And the two large stepped hills are about 6 sheet thicknesses high, while the smaller pieces are 3-4 sheet thicknesses high. I am very, very pleased with the results so far. I suspect I may need to place them on 1/4 mdf pieces but, for now, it looks like there's no or minimal shrinkage. I'll try to take and post photos this weekend. CC |
Goldwyrm | 23 Jun 2009 8:06 p.m. PST |
I've had these for about 15 or more years and just throw them loose in a box in between games. picture |
Cacique Caribe | 23 Jun 2009 8:18 p.m. PST |
Goldwyrm, Nice! Have you coated them with anything, such as straight PVA? CC |
Goldwyrm | 23 Jun 2009 8:56 p.m. PST |
Nope, no coating at all. All I did was crumble them up and glue them in stacks with either white glue or wood glue. I'm leaning toward the light yellow colored wood glue, but it was so long ago, back when I was playing 40K regularly and 2nd edition was new
I just found a box of unused cork in my basement a few days ago, so I'll be making some more. |
Cacique Caribe | 23 Jun 2009 9:17 p.m. PST |
Interesting! I thought I had to coat them, hence my latest project: TMP link CC |