"The Five Worst Things About This Hobby?" Topic

Non-bathing gamers.

"Throw all your books away boys, we just came out with 317th Edition."

"Throw all your figs away boys, we just switched to 33.5mm scale."

GW, WOTC, or your favorite Evil Empire.

Did I mention non-bathing gamers?

Not enough time to paint/play

Not enough time to paint/play

Not enough time to paint/play

Not enough time to paint/play

Not enough time to paint/play

Arrogant silly people that take the hobby too seriously and make a feud of anything.

Gamers that feel the need to "preach" the company line. Why can't I use the figures I have/like for that game?

WYSIWYG gaming. Does not work with most figure lines (especially 15mm)

Arrogant silly people that take the hobby too seriously and make a feud of anything.

Bricoles.

- Wargamers intolerant of other people's views/tastes (i.e. "what do you mean you like those figures? Are you dumb, they're ugly!")
- Button counters
- Serious, elitists gamers (i.e. "you're not a real Napoleonic gamer if you have not read all primary sources. No, not speaking the language is not a good excuse…just learn German")

Favorite miniature lines that suddenly disappear as thoroughly as if they never had existed.

Excessive scale creep (i.e. companies that make their figures especially large or small so that they won't be compatible with other items in the market).

Gamers/collectors who look down their noses at genres/lines other than their own cherished ones.

Metal prices!

- Serious, elitists gamers (i.e. "you're not a real Napoleonic gamer if you have not read all primary sources. No, not speaking the language is not a good excuses…just learn German")

That, definitely that.

I think they feel embarrassed about playing with toy soldiers, and need to justify it to themselves…

The Paperazzi

The Incessant demands for Sex from Hot chicks

The Media Spotlight wrecking relationships

The Stalkers

The Incessant demands for sex from Hot Chicks

Aye, people that forget it's a game/hobby.

The social stigma of being a geek.

What stigma? I just don't think many people
know where to get the cool wargaming T-shirts,
otherwise everyone would have them.

The Incessant demands for sex from Hot Chicks.. i suffer from that all the time…

"The Incessant demands for sex from Hot Chicks"

Yeah, that's a real cross to bear.

Rules lawyers.

How about this -

Spending weeks preparing a terrain piece – made from plastic, blue foam and DAS, then getting very impatient and placing the piece in the (House) oven. Then forgetting its there and only realising that the heat was way too high when you remove a plastic coated BLOB! True – and whats worst – I've done it more than once.

Tony
dampfpanzerwagon.blogspot.com

Excessive flash (not just from hot chicks!) and mould lines.

Having to move. Again.

Painted minis just do not move well and it can be very frustrating to see the damage.

Finding space for the lead mountain. (Unless you're Richard Dreyfuss: "This means something!")

People who forget that above all, it is supposed to be fun.

Arrogant silly people that take the hobby too seriously and make a feud of anything.

Yep! We're playing games with toys. Get over it.

The smell of other gamers at conventions. The soap usually comes free with the hotel room.

Fantasy and Science Fiction games that don't have a "use whatever figures you have" philosophy so rules to stat your own troops/nations/races are not included. I always though those particular genres were primarily about imagination and creativity.

Excessive flash (not just from hot chicks!) and mold lines.

Amen, brother. Sometimes more time and effort is spent prepping the figure than painting it.

Also multi-part figures that don't have enough material to drill & pin the bits together. We actually play games with these things, not build dioramas.

Al | rivetsandsteam.com

Relatives that look upon you as if your retarded

Not enough money to buy miniatures
Not enough time to paint Miniatures
Not being able to find someone to game with .
Forgetting its a fun hobby
Not enough room to display my miniatures

I have to agree with Bede19025 on all 5 accounts

Not having enough people around who are fun to game with.

"Did I mention non-bathing gamers?"

You did. So #5 would actually be "Short-term Memory Loss."

1.) Not enough Time to paint or game.
2.) Deadsites – Websites with no updates for years and no pics of products.
3.) Incomplete lines.
4.) Storage of figures is always in short supply no matter how large your gaming venue.
5.) No response, no answers, no service.

"Did I mention non-bathing gamers?"

Maybe as an additional service the BOD should have someone positioned at the door with a 55 gallon drum of industrial strength deodorant to spray each attendees armpits before they enter.

Hey guys lets do [insert period/war here]. Soon to be followed by "We have decided to do it in scale X", (I have a collection of Scale Y).

Gamesmanship over sportsmanship!

Button/lapel/rivet counters!

Rules hopping (time to rebase everything!)

Campaigns that have grind to a halt!

Some very smart people above; I'll crib from them:

Bede19025: Not enough time to paint/play.

Palafox: Arrogant silly people that take the hobby too seriously and make a feud of anything.

Saber6: WYSIWYG gaming.

McKinstry: People who forget that above all, it is supposed to be fun.

One comment on the last one:

CPT Jake: Having to move. Again.

This was an issue for me for many years. Around the time I settled into a permanent dwelling, I started to solve it. Take my advice and don't wait so long!

The "aha!" moment for me came when I realized that to be used in games, figures and other gaming pieces had to be transported to where the games were. Sure, sometimes I was lucky and the games were in my living room, but often they had to travel in a car.

So the thing to do is NOT to invest in a transport system for a game's worth of miniatures at a time. It's invest in a storage system that is transportable and extensible. As I add more, I make provision to store it. I actually do this nowadays as part of building a unit or figure set -- along with making movement trays, making game counters, etc. Modularity in the storage system helps but is not required.

Takes too much storage space!

donrice is right!

'Experienced gamers' are thinking about transport strategies at the time they make the purchase. We may differ about how best to do it and how much to spend on it but we all agree, it is something that is as much a part of building an army as anything else.

mjc

Those are all great.

Smelly gamers
Win at all costs gamers
Lack of hot chicks at conventions.
Cutting self with X-acto while watching the hitler channel while doing a conversion
Lack of a single opponent on this stupid island!

Lists of the worst things about the hobby.

Never enough time to spend on the hobby.

My the time you get really good at painting/converting, your get old and your sight isn't what it used to/hands not as steady as they used to.

Painting

what ming31 said!

>>>Relatives that look upon you as if your retarded<<<

Retards to whom you are related…

Not enough money to buy miniatures.
Not enough time to paint Miniatures.
Not being able to find someone to game with.
Forgetting its a fun hobby.
over priced minis.

The Incessant demands for sex from Hot Chicks

I have that problem all the time, but my wargaming is only a secondary cause.

The number of people in this thread who totally ignored the theme of the worst FIVE things they hate!

Including me!

Lack of available time and money for all the minis I want.
Internet trolls on the hobby websites I enjoy.

Incessantly being interested in games that either lack support from the company, don't interest many others, or generally considered "dying" games

Finally finding somebody who will play a game in one of the above categories, then finding out I have to move

Not being interested in the "mainstream" games

Carefully packing everything just to have the movers label the box "model train supplies" (at least the stuff deemed not important enough to travel with me)

So many genres/scales/periods/games/cool one off pieces/terrain products, not enough time

Losing contact with one's best friends/gaming buddies, for whatever reasons.

Lack of time/energy/motivation to paint.

Owning rules and games which are actually good, but which don't get played.

Being the only local gamer interested in a particular era (or rules set, or game.)

Being unable to get interested in local gaming trends or other friends' projects, even if they have merit.

1) men who cheat cause they don't like being beaten by a girl (I have vivid memories of this in the FOW tournie I played in)

2) men who smell

3) not enough room to store all the stuff. Mr Pumblechook is a terrain building addict and the garage is full of wood and styrofoam and bits and pieces of things that might be useful, as well as old games and war gaming mags. The shed (ie second garage)is full of powertools, sculpting and terrain building tools as well as our piles of lead, old rules systems and the other half is full of books that just can't be thrown away (the library). This leaves the house for the terrain, the painting tables, the wargaming tables and the armies. sigh

Forgot…..women/gf/wife/S.O. who complain about how much time/money/space the hobby is taking up.

I could always be an alcholic instead or maybe a gambler.

Lack of hot chicks at conventions.

That's why I bring one from home.
You guys pretty much covered every thing I was thinking.

"I could always be an alcholic instead or maybe a gambler."

With all the money and time we invest in the hobby we do not have time nor money to waste with prostitutes nor other "adventures". That argument usually disarm the most hostile spouse.