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09 May 2009 7:51 a.m. PST
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Leadgend10 May 2009 10:04 p.m. PST

French and European minor country artillery seems to be the most lacking, especially as lots of countries used the same Schneider or Skoda guns so only a few models would cover lots of gaps. For example I can't find anyone that makes 15mm versions of the following french guns:
- 37mm mle 16 infantry gun
- 105mm mle 34 Howitzer
- 105mm mle 35 howitzer
- 65mm mle 06 Mountain gun (used by several countries)
- 75mm mle 19 or 28 Mountain gun (used by several countries)
- 105mm mle 28 Mountain gun
- Hotchkiss 25mm AA gun.

bruntonboy10 May 2009 10:42 p.m. PST

Thanks Huw…did'nt consider these as I was obviously having tunnel vision…

French mountain troops for PP are great but a 1 pack isn't a full range and much as I have enjoyed doing the odd head swap using PP's seperate heads I don't fancy a 100 of 'em. Plus, I also think that figures are expensive enough without adding 50% to the price for the extra head as well.

Cheers,
Graham

Etranger10 May 2009 10:58 p.m. PST

Leadgend – some of those Skoda guns are available through Battlefront in their Romanian, Hungarian & Italian artillery ranges (all left over from the Austro-Hungarians in WWI)the names might be a bit different but the guns aren't! IIRC QRF have some of them too. I did have a list of which gun was which at one stage but can't find it now.

French guns are harder to find but between Skytrex, (150mm howitzer, 105mm gun) QRF, (GPF 155mm gun, 75mm AA gun & tractors) Peter Pig (75mm) & Minifigs (for the horsedrawn 75 & limber) I can equip my artillery reasonably well.The Japanese 13.2mm AA gun made by QRF is based on a Hotchkiss design & would do at a pinch.

At the risk of sounding like a cracked record, there's a Eureka 300 Club listing for the 37mm infantry gun too.

kevanG11 May 2009 12:52 a.m. PST

The head range doesnt add 50%. It adds 25% if you need to do every figure.

Didnt stop me buying 9 packs of heads in berets though!

The QRF 13.2mm guns were actually the hotchkiss original mounting models and not the later home made ruff'n'redy home grown japanese version….The japanese ones in the QRF range are based on the first batch recieved by the japanese before they manufactured them under licence and which were identical to the french ones. I am led to beleive that this was deliberately done for doubling up use in the french range.

Etranger11 May 2009 1:02 a.m. PST

That was my understanding too, based on a post by QRFGeoff.

paulkit11 May 2009 2:06 a.m. PST

Not just the French range but hopefully the Romanian one at some point too.

aecurtis Fezian11 May 2009 4:41 a.m. PST

The French canon de montagne de 65 Mle 06 is an odd (and rare) bird, but if anyone wants to have a go at producing one:

PDF link

The canon de montagne de 75 Mle 19 (Schneider) is available from True North; it's in their Polish range.

Calculon11 May 2009 6:07 a.m. PST

True North seem to be taking a break from business at the moment ( link ) , which is a shame as I'd really like some of their 1939 Polish.

kevanG11 May 2009 9:02 a.m. PST

"The canon de montagne de 75 Mle 19 (Schneider) is available from True North; it's in their Polish range."


Hence why I whinged like a little girl about how a tiny True North order cost a veritable fortune in import tax. temptation led me to buy belgian motorbike combinations as well….

Personal logo Mserafin Supporting Member of TMP11 May 2009 9:44 a.m. PST

I'd like to see someone do a good line of early-war SS. Camo smocks and helmet covers, jackboots, and 'odd' weapons, like the MP34/35 smgs, ZB-26 LMGS (Czech verssion of Ben gun) and Vz-37 MMGs (essentially the BESA gun). Peter Pig has one pack of riflement who are appropriate, and the OG SS pack has some useful rifleman types, but it's not the same as a complete range.

BF Mark11 May 2009 10:52 a.m. PST

I would definately purchase:

Goumiers
Slovaks

as with Mark Davies, anything to compliment and expand my collection of XIVth Army (Burma) troops, especially West Africans.

BTW, I'm looking forward to some more 15mm WWI figures.

mark

Leadgend11 May 2009 8:48 p.m. PST

Huw, I know about the available guns and which guns were used by multiple users, hence my listing some that are NOT available. I have compiled a spreadsheet of who makes what here: link

I have scratch built 37mm infantry guns for my French and they came out quite well. Getting them done as a 300 club item will be difficult as most people will only want a couple and you need to get orders for 600 for Nic to make the model. It might be better to try and get it folded into to the French Colonial request as they were common in the colonial armies and quite a few people seem to want those figures.

aecurtis, the 65mm mle 06 wasn't exactly rare, the french used quite a few in the Levant, the Greeks had a pair in each infantry regiment, the Poles had them as the only artillery of their mountain brigades and the Yugoslavs used them in some of theirs.

I was under the impression the 75mm mountain howitzer in True North's Polish range is the 75mm Skoda m15, also used by the Italians as the 75/13.

aecurtis Fezian12 May 2009 6:12 a.m. PST

You're right: the True North piece is the Skoda.

bruntonboy12 May 2009 11:41 a.m. PST

Oh being forgetful again, no one seems to have ever done the Yugoslav army of 1941 either. Thinking hard and all sorts of possibilities crop up.

Aurelian14 May 2009 12:46 p.m. PST

I could have sworn you asked this earlier in the year, too, KM… Some of my preferences (some were already mentioned here). In no particular order…

Hungarian Cavalry

Italian Cavalry

More Italian vehicle options (specifically, the large range of "Autocannone" truck mounted artillery).

Danes

Norwegians

Belgians

Bicycle troops for several nationalities.

I'm sure there are others, but those are what are on the brain at the moment.

-A.

Dropship Horizon17 May 2009 4:08 a.m. PST

"Old Glory/Command Decision do a pretty complete range of US in Greatcoats:"

Thanks Fubarone but they look worse than Army Men to me.

I think the FOW Germans in greatcoats are far superior to Peter Pig despite lacking Hvy Weapons. They actually look 'cold' and have a variety of scarves, mitts and smocks over their greatcoast.

The Late War Germans produced by Restistant Roosters are equally characterful and look like troops I'd expect to see in the Hurtegan or Bulge as opposed to just putting up with a bit of drizzle on the parade ground at Munster.

Cheers
Mark

Fred Cartwright17 May 2009 5:46 a.m. PST

The Late War Germans produced by Restistant Roosters are equally characterful and look like troops I'd expect to see in the Hurtegan or Bulge as opposed to just putting up with a bit of drizzle on the parade ground at Munster.

If it wasn't for the poor representation of the weapons and the wooden poses I'd agree with you. It could have been a really good set of figures spoiled by lack of attention to detail. Lack of heavy weapons is again a problem though.

Soldat17 May 2009 7:02 a.m. PST

I seem to notice no one has mentioned Samoans in Lava lava, with white t-shirts and dixie cup hats. The bane of the Japanese.

Norwegians would be nice too.

Sturmgrenadier18 May 2009 4:32 a.m. PST

"The French canon de montagne de 65 Mle 06 is an odd (and rare) bird, but if anyone wants to have a go at producing one:"

The trail at least looks similar to the US 75mm Pack Howitzer, at least in 15mm scale.

Some spoked wheels, a bit of work with a file to correct the gross inaccuracies in the trail shape and that might look OK.

Getting the barrel shape right might be the hardest thing.

Personal logo Mserafin Supporting Member of TMP18 May 2009 11:12 a.m. PST

"I think the FOW Germans in greatcoats are far superior to Peter Pig despite lacking Hvy Weapons. They actually look 'cold' and have a variety of scarves, mitts and smocks over their greatcoast."

Have you tried the new PP Germans in overcoats? They mix pretty well with the BF ones, IMO. Most importantly PP now makes gun crews and mortars (still no MMGs, for some stupid reason) which takes care of your AT/IG needs.

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