"Chnageover date from Morions to Tricornes for Spanish?" Topic

I would like to know the approximate date when morions went out of favor with the Spanish infantry/marines/militia in the Caribbean/Central America, and they started wearing tricornes?

Any info, or estimates, would be greatly appreciated.

From the little I have been able to gleen from the internet, it appears the morions were worn throughout the 1600's, but an end date is not provided.

I would also appreciate any references for manufacturers of nice looking 15mm Spanish infantry/marines/militia wearing Morions, and/or Tricornes.

With the pike they probably lingered on till the 1690s, for musketeers they no doubt disappeared some time earlier. Floppy broad brimmed hats predominated with most European nations foot until the early 1700s, when a more 'formal tricorne began to emerge.

Try this site, it's an absolute goldmine of info:

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From Hollywood the Spanish wore Morions anytime they were in the New WOrld

Yes but if you game the Spanish in Hollywood style, really you need a Ronald Colman moustache and have to speak like Rosie Perez.

Disneyland recently manned the guns of the fortress with 16th century Spanish gunners in Morions to defeat the 18th pirates of Captain Barbossa. we all know the mouse is never wrong, LOL.

However, at Pt. Loma Light House, run by the US Park Service, I had the opportunity to try on an authentic Morion that had been relined. You may try contacting them for some information.

Many of the 'Spanish' on board ships & especially serving in the colonies were mercenaries & other than Spanish 'volunteers'. Most of whom used whatever arms & equipment they came with or what their employer provided. Most were not regular Spanish army.

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herby, "regular spanish army" were commonly not "spanish" in the modern term. Without looking it up, of course, my memory says that in the day, the troops were defined by location, castillians, catalans and so on. The first named tercio was "Lombardy" and Italian. On average, it was about 17% italian, 17% low lander, 10% german and so on. Spain was not a "nation state" in this period, but an empire.

Rocky

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Oh, and the morian was not specifically spanish! Most of europe used them at one time or another, that they were "spanish" is more hollywood than other.

The time of transition, the tercios were "hatted" with a cap liner by about 1670, and tricorn like everyone else at the same time. metal helmets and such persisted in the colonies a bit longer.

Rocky

"I would also appreciate any references for manufacturers of nice looking 15mm Spanish infantry/marines/militia wearing Morions, and/or Tricornes."

For a good range to use as 15mm Spanish, try Grumpy's Portuguese range. They work perfectly for the New world! link
They also have accompanying Buccaneer and Tupi ranges…

Here's some work-in-progress shots of a selection of all three ranges I am having painted up. There is still a lot of work to do on the Tupi, but the others are getting there. link

The tricorne developed from the floppy hats of the earlier period. Many troops would pin up one side or both of the hats This eventually evolved into the tricrone.

Rich