"Post Nuclear , Bio, or whatecer Holocaust Movies?" Topic

Only good ones please.

Of all the Holocaust Movies that I've seen… I have to name The Day After as the most profound in terms of impact and staying power for me.

I do love me a good Zombie Film and Resident Evil: Extinction is one of my wife's favorites. I'm more partial to Dawn of the Dead, 2004 ((running zombies- nothin beats that!)).

Road Warrior, of course, comes to mind. But, it tends to be somewhat dated now.

Day After Tomorrow is also a good one in terms of natural holocaust. And, Dennis Quaid never disappoints.

Cheers!

Omega Man.

DefCon 4

Damnation Alley (the cockroach scene:O )

Threads. Bleak. Very bleak.

Omega Man & Damnation Alley.

There was a post holocaust TV series that used to show on PBS here in the States back in the 80s if I recall correctly. It was a BBC series and the few episodes I saw were more about trying to keep a farm going than how to fight off mutants or anything of the like – but it was interesting. I have no idea what the name of the series was, but I'd love to see it again.

"Ultimate Warrior" a weird Yul Brenner movie.

The Best – Mad Max Trilogy
The Worst – The Postman

Yeppers, Tobruk. Postman (and Water World) = WOAT

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Six-String Samurai. WWIII happens in the 50's. Elvis is crowned King of America and rules from Las Vegas until he dies. Now, all the best guitar-slinging warriors are making their way to Vegas, battling to be his successor, including the Buddy Holly-esque protagonist.

No. Really. It's pretty awesome.

Hybrid, after the fall of NY, Waterworld, Hardware…

IMHO there is no "bad" PA movies only extra cheesy ones.

check out this blog for lots more and lots of info…
post-apocalypse.co.uk

and this site…
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28 Days
28 Weeks

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World Without End

Space ship from the 1970s (1950s version) goes into a time barrier and exits several hundred years after WWIII. They have to fight off cavemen and ultramodern underground dwellers. Very good movie.

Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
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Mad Max, number 1 by a loooong margin.

There was a Russian movie called "Children of the Sun" IIRC, that had some interesting things going on. Hardware also comes to mind, though more for the fact that it had such a low budget but was actually quite good.

Escape from New York I would put into the genre too. On the Beach (the original) is very good, but not really post apocalyptic in the Mad Max sense.

There was a very, very, very good New Zealand film called "This Quiet Earth" which was a post scientific experiment gone wrong film where basically the entire world's population dissapears, except for three people. Not good for gaming, but a truly great movie.

Good grief, am I alone in liking the postman?

Nah I thought the postman was pretty good.

i am a legend !

Ma foie! I thought I was the only person in the world who had ever watched "Six String Samurai". The downfall of civilization with soundtrack by the Red Elvises – gotta love it!

And then there's "World Gone Wild", the only movie I can remember where Bruce Dern plays something other than a total psycho and the bad guys are led by Adam Ant. One of the stranger riffs on the Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven plotline.

LT

On the Beach – blechh , just a bunch of whiners partying till they die.

postman was OK in my book, not a "greatist movie ever made" mind you, but watchable…untill I read the book, then it definatly sucked….good book…

waterworld I also liked, sure, have to turn off the brain for some parts, but good fun.

roadwarrior definatly good PA fun, that whole series…..

steel dawn- good fun back in the day

ugh…my mind is blank now, I know there are more cheesy or semi good ones from back in the 80s and 90s…

Night of the Comet was awesome. Obviously Omega Man, the Planet of the Apes movies(70's vintage, not Marky Mark) were awesome as well.

28 days later, as well as 28 weeks later were also exceptional.

You should "read" Alas Babylon, a good post-apoc book. Not too long, so it won't eat up your moving watching time.

Hmmm…I can't think of the title. It was an odd – possibly Japanese – film in which the world just…ends. Folks committing suicide to avoid facing it. Near the end a massive missile exchange destroys most everything. The last scene features two savage, mutated descendants of the survivors fighting for a scrap of food. I found that last image very disturbing.

oh and I forgot the day of the triffids, not the movies version the BBC TV series from the 70's. Great bit of TV there.

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Here there be dragons…the problem with PA subject matter is the upfront hopelessness of the situation…no food…no clean water…no shelter…no hope.

I like the PA genre, quite a bit actually. But the reality of the playability of a PA setting is another matter.

Lots of cars/trucks running around without any realistic fuel, repair parts, etc..

This link reviews PA movies and lists more volumen.net/apoc

In the end, is this a post about nothing or is it in regards to gaming/miniatures?

Postman was good for several reasons…a western with decent overtones…completely playable.

Waterworld had a good base theme…there needs to be some land…many more and larger atoll/floating towns…smokers were high end stupid…but all in all playable.

Day After Tomorrow was interesting…a new ice age with reoccurring weather issues…has potential.

Children of Man, 12 Monkeys, etc. offer the turn to the PA setting where it is beginning or following through the into the bad times.

Damnation Alley was fun in a 70's bad TV cold war way.

After all these years of liking the PA setting and wanting to play it out via RPG the end result I have worked out is a simple formula:

1. ruin the world how ever you want "insert here" or in regards to the post theme "insert movie here"

2. create pockets of society that is untouched, continuing to advance, or in whatever way you choose is protected/isolated from the "ruin".

Create a paradox of white and black settings, hope and hopelessness, clean and dirty, etc..

Piece together movie imagery to create this setting and it provides the world that is desired…looks ruined but you can live in it.

Road Warrior picture
Night of the Juggers(blood of heroes) YouTube link
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This way you have a means to show survivability along with the desired ruin.

The game sucks if it is always about is there anything to eat and is there any water…oh god here come the rape gangs.

PA movies/gaming can be summed up with, "Ruining the Earth presents several problems, take away all hope and you have hell, to destroy without leaving some potential…the devil is in the details."

Most of the good ones have been covered, however there are a few more.

For a truly depressing post-holocaust movie, Testament:

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For a pre-holocaust movie, Miracle Mile:

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Another good one is a young Don Johnson in Harlan Ellison's A Boy and his Dog:

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Another good one is Andrei Tarkovsky's classic Stalker:

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Here's another fan of "Six String Samurai".

"A Boy and His Dog" is another favorite.

There was an English film called "No Blade of Grass" from the 70's that I thought was decent.

Note about the postman: My father (who is very much NOT a Sci-Fi fan) saw the Postman when it first came out on video, and thought it sucked. Years later (a few months after 9/11 to be exact) he caught it on HBO and he was moved by it's depiction of a 'lost America.' It seemed to have more meaning for him after that.

'The Earth Dies Screaming' was a good Hammer B&W film, I remember a scene where a man hides in a cupboard while some zombie types are hunting him, as he looks through an air grill you see these glowing, undead eyes looking back, very scary, mind you, I was about 11 when I saw it!

Reign of Fire.

End of Civilisation, Mankind is all but obliterated. Survivors try to continue without tech, while being hunted by dragons. :) Movies of today become the word of mouth mythologies of post-apocalypse tomorrow.

… and then the man in the black mask hissed " No…I am your Father!"

What's not to like? :D I loved it, although I grant that US audiences may not have liked the fact it was set in the UK, or enjoyed the portrayal of the American armed forces.

No Scutatus, we did NOT appreciate the portrayal of the US armed forces.

(ditto with "28 Days Later")

:)

Thought as much. I'm sure it was nothing personal.
It went down rather well over here though.

Funny that.

LOL!

:)

No, I thought the portrayal was about right. "It's the Americans!" said with fright/disgust seems to be most European's reaction to us.

I've always liked "A Boy and His Dog", as well as the first two Mad Max films (even with terrible voice dubbing).

"Children of Men" is one of the most chilling apocalyptic films I have seen lately, and the first part of "The Stand" (when it is the plague killing things and society breaking down) is always thought provoking.
I did like "I Am Legend", but am pretty sure that most of Manhattan would collapse due to failure of underground pumping systems.

The Terminator movies present a grim post-apocalyptic world, but only in brief scenes.

As for pre-apocalypse… I found "Miracle Mile" to be intriguing, and have always loved "Dr. Strangelove".

Hell comes to Frogtown. Classic.

i second Hell comes to Frogtown ;>

you beat me to it Mad Monkey ;D

Sandahl Bergman doing the Dance of the Three Snakes … hubba! hubba!

LT

It hasn't come out yet, but I got a feeling 'The Road' (based on another book by Cormac McCarthy) will be good.

One of my all-time favorite post-apocalypse shows was the old BBC 'Survivors' series.
It was a plague that done it… and afterward there aren't any mutants or zombies… just normal people trying to figure out how to do all the stuff they'd taken for granted.
I never saw the last set of shows… for all I know it went into the crapper… but the first part was pretty intriguing.

Lots of great titles so far. I would like to second Six String Samurai. Goofy fun.

Defcon 4 on the other hand was a hideous piece of . Unless of course you like the idea of ROTC brats taking over the world and everyone else going mutant cannibal in less than a month. Oh and the ending is top notch, complete with "… and they all lived happily ever after." I you not.

The BBC had several cool PAP series to include…
The Tripods (post alien invasion style apocaplyse)
Survivors (1975-77 version)
The Changes

It hasn't come out yet, but I got a feeling 'The Road' (based on another book by Cormac McCarthy) will be good.

That was one seriously depressing book. The problem I see from a movie-making point of view is that so little actually happens in the book and so much space is devoted to the man's memories that the film would end up as an endless series of flashbacks, which is a tough way to keep a film going. It's in my Netflix 'waiting to be released' queue.

LT

Zardoz

Defcon 4…the only movie I ever walked out on…terrible

Defcon 4…the only movie I ever walked out on…terrible

I am glad to read I am not alone in loathing this movie. The only reason I didn't walk out of this movie was 1) it was hot as hell outside and air conditioned in the theater and 2) I got in for free.

The shame is the premise for the movie had such potential.

My fave is Dr. Stranglove. w/o a doubt.

'Last Man on Earth' with Vincent Price. (It was the first of the Omega Man, I am Legend, etc. franchise….)

We know, Zephyr. :)

(Matheson rocks!)

And Vincent Price's narration was hilarious/great!

-the Will Smith re-make sucked. It was "Fresh Prince/wise cracking guy who was supposed to be a full Colonel in Wasteland" :(