| Union Jack Jackson | 03 Apr 2009 1:18 p.m. PST |
I know israeli AFVs are some sort of sand colour – but what? In some photos they seem orangey yellow, and in others more a khaki/grey colour. I suspect lighting plays a partWhat colour should I paint them? Currently doing '67, but more modern stuff interests me also. |
| Sundance | 03 Apr 2009 2:35 p.m. PST |
link Just a selection of merkava pics to choose from. Just Google any Israeli vehicle with image and you'll find lots out there! |
| HardRock | 03 Apr 2009 2:38 p.m. PST |
ModelMaster paints have Israeli Armor Sand in both enamel and acrylic. There are other companies that make Israeli colors, that's what I had in arms reach. |
| Union Jack Jackson | 03 Apr 2009 2:53 p.m. PST |
Sundance – Yes there are lots of images on the net, but the're not all the same flippin' colour – thats the problem! Hardrock – I'm not familiar with that make of paints – I don't think they can be available over here. |
| Sundance | 03 Apr 2009 3:17 p.m. PST |
True, but if you go out to the tank park, you'll see that the vehicles are not all the same color either. They're close, but not the same. :o) |
| Martin Rapier | 03 Apr 2009 3:34 p.m. PST |
Modern IDF AFVs are 'sand grey' which is a light sandy grey colour, back in 67 a lot of them were more sandy. For 67/73 I do most of them in a mid sand but some stuff (Super Shermans and M60s) in mid greeny sand. "but the're not all the same flippin' colour" No, they aren't. An IDF force with vehicles all the same colour just doesn't look right, the unifying feature are the tac signs. When I watched the Six Day War and the 73 war on TV, the Israeli tanks weren't all the same colour either. |
| DestoFante | 03 Apr 2009 5:53 p.m. PST |
For my Zeldas, I used Reaper's "Ghoul Gray", which is a greenish grey -- or a greyish green, depending… Not much brownish/sandy tones, just an opaque effect that worked quite well for what I had in mine. I finished the tanks with a dark brownish light wash, so I got just a hint of darker shades on the vehicle.
It looks very much like like the color of several of the Merkavas in the link suggested by Sundance. Adik
destofante.blogspot.com |
| von Paulus | 04 Apr 2009 2:42 a.m. PST |
Coat d'arms faded khaki or buy the Polyscale stuff from Hannants (they do IDF paint colours from 48 onwards). |
| Union Jack Jackson | 04 Apr 2009 4:41 a.m. PST |
Thanks for all the comments guys. Has anyone used Vallejo German Camo Beige, with highlighting? |
| Garand | 04 Apr 2009 6:36 a.m. PST |
I think part of the problem is that current production Israeli vehicles are no longer a tan color, but a dark greenish-grey color. For very current stuff, I mixed Tamiya Dark Gray, Dark Green, and Red Brown to a suitable dark gray-brown-green color. Not an easy one to do. picture Damon. |
| Garand | 04 Apr 2009 6:37 a.m. PST |
More pics illustrating my point: link Damon. |
| von Paulus | 04 Apr 2009 11:20 a.m. PST |
Vallejo camo biege would work just the same as Coat d'Arms faded khaki except you would get more from a pot of Coat d'Arms depending on what scale you are working in I suppose. Also I think I remember reading somewhere how the IDF colour changed (about 1984?) to the greener shade? Could be wrong? Maybe check out the Arab Israeli yahoo group? |
| Greg G1 | 05 Apr 2009 4:39 a.m. PST |
Copied this from a model magazine some time ago on how to mix Sinai Grey ( the colour Israeli vehicles were painted) it's a 50/50 mix of tamiya paints XF20 medium grey and XF57 buff or in humbrol paints 126 satin US medium grey and 83 Matt ochre. Hope this is of some help.
Greg |
| von Paulus | 05 Apr 2009 2:12 p.m. PST |
Also check out the IDF modelling website as I'm sure it will tell you all you need to know! |
