"New Copplestone Sun King range" Topic

So who else is thinking about these?

They are certainly playing on my mind but I want to be strong and hold out for conquests FIW regulars to get my 18th century fix…

Me. I'm hooked. Just waiting for them to go up on the website.

Nice clean sculpts (a Copplestone trademark) with great detail (mustaches, wigs, uniforms)

Size-wise they fit alongside Dixon and Reiver Castings. Dixon being somewhat compatible (weren't they done by a young Copplestone ?) Reiver are best kept to their own units.

And you can have battles in New France from 1689 onwards (hint-hint)

They fit against Dixon? I'm surprised I would have thought scale creep over the past 10 years would have ruled that out.

Do you have the minis in hand Patrick?

If they do fit in with Dixon I'll pick some up to add to My Monmouths Rebellion figures.

I got all the early casts at Salute. They are slightly taller than Dixon and Renegade, but not too much.

See a pic comparing them here :

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From left to right : Copplestone, Dixon, Copplestone, Reiver, Copplestone.

Here is another shot, of a Copplestone next to a Dixon.

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They look pretty close to me.

Many thanks for that Patrick. Excellent news. Now I'll definitely be doing Sedgemoor. Actually in that first pic the Reivers don't look quite as bad as they do on their website. You should ask them for a small consideration for your services :-)

The detail in the Reivers is somewhat vague at times, but the poses are quite decent and some figures are chearly in action, shouting and looking mightily ed. Reiver are what somebody else described as "Old School gentleman gamers and traders" They certainly love the period. Like I said, worth looking into, but probably best kept to their own units.

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Another comparison shot. 4 Reivers between a Copplestone and a Dixon.

Bahhhh just when I decided on WSS.

Conde and Turenne will have to wait.

Well, I may not make an army but I would want at least one of each just because they are so cool

Can someone photo them next to some TAG TYW castings?

I recognize that they are not the same period; however, the TAG rank and file can easily be converted to this period.

>>>They fit against Dixon? I'm surprised I would have thought scale creep over the past 10 years would have ruled that out.<<<

Same here (surprised), so they are not the standard "heroic" size of Copplestone's pulp figures (Back of Beyond, etc.)?

I have some LoA Dixons I bought four or five years ago and they are very close to the (smaller "28mm") Foundry/Perry WSS range? Someone said "They are slightly taller than Dixon and Renegade", Renegade are what I'd term heroic, could these Dixon I have be an earlier line by them?

Hmmm, just viewed Patrick R's image with five figs for comparison. The Copplestone do look to be about a head taller. Was going to order a big bunch but was hoping for "larger" 28mm in size.

Can anyone provide an image of the new "Sun King" figures with mm ruler beside them?

TIA…

I would not be surprised if some didn't invade the Weaver household at some point.

Cheriton;

There are/were two ranges from Dixon, the original "Grand Alliance" range and the somewhat later "League of Augsburg" range, both listed here:

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I'm not sure of the dates of the respective ranges, but they were sculpted by Mark Copplestone and the two are compatible.

Not sure what you were seeing, maybe the angle that Patrick's first pic was taken at, but if you'll go back and look at the second picture link that he posted, there is very little difference in size between the new figures and the Dixon that he used.

Now the sculpting style is definitely more "evolved" since the Dixons. The new figures are more refined and look more like caricatures or studies taken from period paintings. However, I still think that they would mix well in the same army. Same unit would have to be a case-by-case decision. Much will depend on the rules and the size units that you use also. An "odd" figure here or there in a 48 or 60-figure unit won't be noticable, in a 12-figure and maybe even in a 24-figure it will stand out more. Same thing with mixing units in the army, smaller units will stand out more, large units will tend to "blend" more in the overall spectacle.

Bill

All good news, I'm now contemplating buying some of the Dixons too. Problem is the website listing is really unhelpful. It lists a wepaon type and in the case of the Levy/rebel troops, whether they are in coat or shirt but no pose description. No pics no desciption of the pose and I don't really want to make up mixed units of firing, marching, loading, charging etc.

I suspect Dixon would generate more sales if they actually had a few photos of the figures.

Here are more shots to compare. The pikeman is slightly taller than the other figure I used.

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If you want to buy Dixon's buy them from Wargames LLC in the US at only 1 dollar each. I bought several hundred last month. baxter still has plenty.

Is that the one listed here as Sy Hobbs Wargames LLC? I looked there and they aren't listed. $1 USD would be an extremely attractive price for a 28mm figure of this quality, that's a third the price Dixon are asking and minus the outrageous 30% p&p.

burlesonbill, Patrick R et al

>>>There are/were two ranges from Dixon, the original "Grand Alliance" range and the somewhat later "League of Augsburg" range, both listed here:<<<

Ah, you're correct, my Dixon are apparently the earlier GA…

>>>Not sure what you were seeing, maybe the angle that Patrick's first pic was taken at,<<<

Yes, it was the angle. Thanks for taking time to elaborate.

Patrick R:

Thanks for going to the effort of including the measuring tape in the image.

Both your input has simply reinforced my urgency to begin getting this line, the period has been a decades-long "someday" project for me. Looks like "someday" has arrived.

Doug;

This link should get you there:

wargamesminis.com

There may be some gaps in what I know of their history, but Wargames Inc. was originally started in Dallas, TX, in the 1980's by Johnson Hood, an English expatriot, as the distibutor of Essex and Dixon. Some time later Johnson took on Dallas local Ed Phillips as a partner and they re-located to Tridelphia, WV for many years. At some point Johnson left (I was out of the hobby then and didn't keep up) and Ed ran the business. When Ed retired he sold the business in January of 2008, now Wargames LLC, to Baxter and Nancy in Nashville, TN, where it now resides.

All good people to deal with, from start to now. I have gotten several orders through Baxter and Nancy with excellent service. I don't know Baxter and Nancy personally, but I've sat across many a tabletop from Johnson Hood and spent many hours discussing painting and modeling with Ed Phillips "back in the day". Johnson was always a tough opponent and Ed the consumate gentleman (and a member of the Company of Military Historians).

Bill