"CTA British (zulu war) vs AiP (egypt sudan) 54mm figs" Topic

Does anyone have firsthand knowledge of how the Call To Arms British (zulu war) measure up to the Armies in Plastic (egypt sudan)Figures. 54mm scale

Other than no pugarees on the zulu war figs and the cuff difference, would they work together?

Specifically--Zulu war Brits set 2 and Egypt/sudan brit infantry

Thanks for any input.

Armies in Plastic figures are general a bit taller and much thicker than Call to Arms ones- technically the same scale i suppose but completely different sculpting style.

Both are nice figures- but the Armies in Plastic ones a chunkier and look better on the tabletop. AiP just released British and Egyptian cavalry for the Sudan if i recall.

Mdriscoll--

That is what I thought, Just wanted to get a second opinion.

I saw the CTA figs in a zulu battle report and liked the poses and thought I could add some (especially some I found on sale for about 40 cents apiece) but I think the difference would be noticable.

I will continue to gather AIP figs as I find sales

As I recall, having painted up a load of CTA figures a few years ago, they are on the small side. Very nice figures, but probably more like 1/35th than 1/32nd.

yep, the AIP is noticeably larger than the CTA. Both are nice figures, though.

I have also collected both AIP and CTA victorian era British figures, and I agree that the AIP are definetely on the larger scale as 1/32 is to 1/35. I have not mixed the two yet but when I get around to putting together my Zulu campaign I think I will mix the two as people are of different sizes and a firing line or advancing line would also look convincing. One problem is the later Victorian AIP figures have Puttees and bolt action Enfields(?) and I believe only one set of the AIP have the gator type of leggings and the Henri Martini rifle as the CTA figures have, so you have to be careful in which sets you purchase if you want to match CTA.
I will do the same with the Conte and CTA Zulu troops I have collected. I will also throw in a few of the MPC and Marlborough Zulu figures I have. All these figures are a little bit different in size and girth, but that is what I think will make the units look convincing. Oh, I will also use some Conte and Marlborough British troops as well. Ihanks for bringing up the subject, in the far future I will post my Zulu campaingn photos, but i want to do a Boxer campaign first, trying for a summer project. Let's hear it for those fightin 54's, Huzzah!

I was of similar mind as you horseandmusket in regards to the mixing of the marlborogh and conte as well. I agree with your thesis of the variety of body types and sizes.

However, I am focusing on just the sudan and will likely remain with AIP. I can live with the enfields for the later AIP guys, however a bulk of the troops are the martini henry, pugaree and gaiter wearing egypt/first sudan types.

I have used 2 charben mounted scots gaurd officers with a head swaps (AIP) for the force commanders. I will also be modifying the Egypt/Sudan inf to serve as RA. I have the new cav, and egyptian cav, and inidan cav. I have the RN brigades and 4 timpo gatling guns. Also have Charben camels for supply.

will likely pick up a few more charben camels--One can never have too many of them. I am using them with dervish cavalry which fit nicely over the humps. Am also converting some fuzzy wuzzy inf into camelry as well.

Plan on using bundock and bayonet rules to encourage solo play as well as limited player interaction. Might make customized card deck with a card for each battalion or gun or rub. each card would feature the excellent uniform figure that the perry bros did for their article. While I am trying to be historical as to uniforms, I also am allowing myself some leeway to have fun and do what causes me enjoyment. So a few inaccuracies won't mar my joy. I will likely form a campaign where I have available battalions and have the commander(s) choose the forces and brigade them as they will.

I am hesitant to get into the zulu campaign because I already did it in college 20 years ago in 6mm and 25mm,and I want to finish the sudan project and actually play a few games in keeping with my refined focus goal I set for myself this year.

Cheers!

For AIP brits for the Zulu war, you need to get the 1882 range. leather leggings and martini henry rifle. The other later sets have puttees and the bolt action rifle as well as the later water bottle.

I'm doing the North West Frontier with AIP figs. I also picked up the Afghan Fort set when it was on sale this past Summer. Gotta make hills and paint up the Fort. It's pretty nice.

Also doing AWI, WWII, The Alamo and Span Am Wars in 54mm.

Thanks,

John

I am going to do the Moro war using span/Am war US and modified Boxers.

hat's funny, I was looking for suitable figs for Moro's. Are you planning on doing any of the Phillipino Scouts or Constabulary too? Please post any pics you take.

Thanks,

John

You probably know about this already, but there is a great Moro War print available from the Center for Military History:

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Thanks, I hadn't seen that. Great stuff!

John