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Palafox10 Mar 2009 10:48 a.m. PST

Hello.

This is the cannon that was next to Pegasus Bridge. I'm fairly sure that is a Pak38 but the protection plate is confusing as I've never seen it before. I'm going ahead with my project of Pegasus bridge and wanted to be sure about this feature.

link

Is it maybe a french one or another model?.

Thank you.

Yankyaeger10 Mar 2009 11:02 a.m. PST

5cm pedastal mounted pak 38.

Verlinden models makes a 1/35th and I think a 1/48th version.

Cheers!
-Troy

Canuckistan Commander10 Mar 2009 11:04 a.m. PST

A closer picture would be nice, especially the breech. The muzzle brake looks German. I would say a Pak38 with armor plating for a concrete bunker emplacement. Is this the original emplacement or was it moved there?

Richard Baber10 Mar 2009 1:38 p.m. PST

What Yankyaeger said – Pak38 on pedistal mount.

Britannia do one in 20mm, there are several other available in this scale too.

John D Salt10 Mar 2009 3:33 p.m. PST

Identify it? Seen it, touched it, smoked a ciggy sitting on it, bimbled over the other side of the canal and ordered a beer from Arlette Gondree.

It's a 5cm Festungspak L/60.

All the best,

John.

aecurtis Fezian10 Mar 2009 5:37 p.m. PST

Accurate Armour do both the gun and gun pit as separate kits in 1:76 scale.

Antenociti does the gun and a slightly different pit, or just the gun, in 15mm:

link

Allen

Jemima Fawr10 Mar 2009 6:25 p.m. PST

God Bless Madame Gondree – the only decent cup of tea in all of France and for some unknown reason, she always gives me a free pot (she must think I'm someone else, I think…)

Etranger10 Mar 2009 6:35 p.m. PST

Maybe she just likes glider pilots Mark!

zoneofcontrol10 Mar 2009 6:45 p.m. PST

Armaments In Miniature do both the gun and the gun pit/bunker in 15mm. They have a few pieces available in 15mm on the Pegasus Bridge battle (including an awesome bridge!) They'll be at Cold Wars in Lancaster, PA at the end of this week if anyone is going. I've bought a few items from them and am more than pleased.

Jemima Fawr10 Mar 2009 7:31 p.m. PST

She's got my wings! I noticed that she didn't have any Glider Pilots' Wings behind on the wall, which was something of a surprise. So when I got home, I sent her my own (still the same pattern as WW2).

Etranger10 Mar 2009 8:53 p.m. PST

Good man that! It's interesting though that the German Glider attack on Eban Emel is eulogised for its accuracy but the supreme accuracy of the glider pilots at Pegasus is more or less ignored despite finding a smaller, harder target in the dark.

Palafox11 Mar 2009 3:33 a.m. PST

Thanks a lot to all for your kind help.

I'm making it on 28mm as I have a lot of Artizan and BAM stuff, though a 20mm model of the bridge is already ordered as the measures fit. For the cannon I'm afraid I'll use a Pak38 from Artizan, BAM or any other and scratch-build the cover plate. Knowing the exact name has helped a lot as now I can find a lot of photos of that cannon.

Those links from Accurate armor and Britannia models are very helpful indeed and probably I'll buy one to help me building the one in 28mm. Unfortunately I didn't find a Verlinden 1/48.

BTW, the Britannia site has some boats and a british motor boat that could be used as a german patrol boat for Caen river changing the main gun.

Thanks a lot again for your help.

PD: What's a German Pioneerlandungsboot 40 boat?, I've seen it listed on Britannia site but can not find any photo of it anywhere.

Jemima Fawr11 Mar 2009 5:24 a.m. PST

I don't know if you've seen a photo of a Raeumboot of the type that attacked Pegasus Bridge, but they're quite big – bigger than an E-Boat – which surprised me. There is a photo of one of them run aground on a Orne Canal that appears in some of the French-published books.

Palafox11 Mar 2009 6:02 a.m. PST

I haven't seen any french book on this. Didn't knew there were any. About the boat, do you mean something like this?:

picture

Doesn't seems too well armed, does it?.

This one looks more impressive:

link

Jemima Fawr11 Mar 2009 8:26 a.m. PST

Yup, that's a standard Rauemboot, of which the 10th Rauemboot Flotilla at Ouistreham/Caen had a dozen or so. Looking at the drawing I've got here, it looks like they had a heavy weapon fore and aft (20mm? 37mm? 50mm?) and two AAMG mounts (possibly as heavy as 20mm?).

The flotilla also had a larger escort vessel (the 'Von Der Lippe') and at least one older Vorpostenboot (VP212), which looks very much like the one in your second link (tall funnel), though with a pedestal mount in the bow. The VP212 is the one photographed run aground after the battle.

Jemima Fawr11 Mar 2009 8:27 a.m. PST

I should add that these were mainly used for minesweeping and coastal surveillance, hence the light armament.

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