| duschmurtz | 09 Mar 2009 5:20 a.m. PST |
Hi to all. Does anybody know a color scheme for mountain indians ? There is no problem for the classical ones but even in the WRG publications there is no mention of mountain indians dressing. |
| Rudysnelson | 09 Mar 2009 6:34 a.m. PST |
Was not some of the tribes which allied with Alexander in the movie Mountain tribes? If so you might check the movie. Another interesting movie are the colors of the troops dress in the pre-transformation era of 'Young Buddhas'. very colorful. Plenty of Oranges and red. |
aecurtis  | 09 Mar 2009 7:36 a.m. PST |
JJartist links to this on his Ancient Battles site: link He used to have some notes by Duncan Head on he mountain Indians, but it's not available now. Ah, wait: it's just that the URL is screwed up: link Allen |
| duschmurtz | 09 Mar 2009 2:38 p.m. PST |
Nice ! I tried the link on Duncan Head but didn't noticed the problem in the adress… Thanks a lot for all your fast answers and let the paint bottles be opened ! Jean-Baptiste |
| aecurtis | 09 Mar 2009 4:03 p.m. PST |
I was unclear; sorry. The link on Jeff's site appears to have extraneous bits in it; the one I posted here has those removed, so should work fine. Allen |
| Rudysnelson | 09 Mar 2009 4:12 p.m. PST |
A website on Tibetian clothing and colors stated that in Tibet near the Indian border Yellow and dark red were the primary colors of clothing. If you desire to say that the Indian border region is also the home to some Indian Mtn nations, then those colors may have been common. |
| aecurtis | 09 Mar 2009 5:29 p.m. PST |
I think a look at an atlas might be in order…  Allen |
| Rudysnelson | 10 Mar 2009 7:08 a.m. PST |
Allen just repeating the segment that was in the article. Besides the Historical Atlas shows a common border with India in the past. But if you are refering to the location of Mountain Indian Empires I will have to check out the specific ones. |
 John the OFM  | 10 Mar 2009 7:57 a.m. PST |
I painted Mountain Indians for a friend.
Using miniml historical references, I used a lot of pale yellows, browns, greens, reds and blues.
It appears from Duncan's notes that I guessed correctly. |
| aecurtis | 10 Mar 2009 8:46 a.m. PST |
I believe the "mountain Indians" so beloved of WRG, and copied by others, are meant to portray the areas and groupings of people first known as Ariana, then as the Mahajanapadas of Ghandara and Khamboja, and later as the Parapamisidae. Modern locations in this area should be familiar: Kabul, Kandahar, Bagram, the Panjshir Valley, the Swat Valley… Sitting astride the Silk Road? Yep. So access to the trading centers of Central Asia (Kashgar, Khotan) and eastwards--and so eventually Tibet? Yep. Access to the kingdoms and "republics" of western India through the passes? Yep. That's how the name Hindu Kush came about, and Hinduism spread into the areas of modern Afghanistan that way. But a common border with Tibet? That's what I'm not seeing. There could be some distant trade contact via Central Asia. But India's own border with Tibet has these inconvenient, tall, things in the way: mountains, but not the abode of the "mountain Indians". So I'm not seeing a great degree of cross-cultural influence between Tibet and the "mountain Indians". Allen |
| duschmurtz | 13 Mar 2009 8:54 a.m. PST |
Sorry for the long time taken to thank you all. Your indications were precious and I'll show you a few pics as soon as possible.
I think following Duncan Head's indications for colors with a little Persian/pre-Kushan (very little)influence. I found this but the garnments seem a little bit "uniformised":
link
Thanks all again |
| duschmurtz | 20 Jun 2009 3:49 p.m. PST |
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 BigRedBat  | 22 Jun 2009 6:29 a.m. PST |
Cor; lovely painting! What manufacturer are those, please? Are they 28s? Simon |
| duschmurtz | 22 Jun 2009 8:08 a.m. PST |
They are 15mm (rather 18), from Xyston miniatures, the indian range.
Here the link:
link |
| DeRuyter | 24 Jun 2009 1:31 p.m. PST |
Awesome painting! I have a large collection of Xyston Greeks and I am working on a Greco-Bactrian army with Mountain Indians. I am using OG for the Indians though. Question: How did you undercoat them? I usually use black, but I was thinking of using white prime with washes, or a brown prime. Thanks
Eric |
| duschmurtz | 24 Jun 2009 10:37 p.m. PST |
Thanks for the comments. I use black undercoat with 3 layers of Prince august paints. The technique is described in the french magazine Vae Victis n°87. It's mainly the "classical" layering technique with a zenital highlightning (i use white to produce a "pastel" effect).
Priming in white can be interesting but means to use dark washes for outlining. At this scale, exagerating the optical effect is important. |
| DeRuyter | 25 Jun 2009 8:28 a.m. PST |
Thanks! White undercoating is not my painting style anyway! |
