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Allen5724 Feb 2009 9:07 p.m. PST

I just looked, 4 of you guys have stifled me. Wait, if you read this you didnt stifle me yet. I admit that I am curious about what I said that caused the stifle but if I knew who did it I would not know why anyway.

Who cares. I think the whole stifle thing should be done away with.

Phillipaj24 Feb 2009 9:35 p.m. PST

Well the thread got me to look up if I'd be stifled and I had! woo hoo… just once, and now I'm wondering what so and so it was….. but i'm with OFM on this one.

Neotacha24 Feb 2009 10:17 p.m. PST

Irish, I don't see how stifling someone is like talking behind his back. All a stifle does is block out the stiflee's posts in the stifler's version of TMP. No one else is affected at all.

Talking behind someone's back is more along the lines of me PMing mweaver to talk about the wart on the OFM's nose.

(Sorry, John. I do seem to be picking on you, rather.)

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP24 Feb 2009 11:08 p.m. PST

Wart?
What wart?

Static Tyrant24 Feb 2009 11:46 p.m. PST

I think the analogy he should have used was that stifling someone is liking turning your back on them while they're talking (to the room at large, perhaps).

Oh, and/or talking over them while they're talking.

AndrewGPaul25 Feb 2009 2:21 a.m. PST

So? Who cares? Even if you've got the right to speak, I've also got the right to ignore you.

It's not like "talking over" you, since my stifle doesn't influence your ability to be heard by the rest of the members.

I agree with Dom; remove the stifle count from profiles. Can we get back to arguing over buttonhole lace and GW now? grin

Plynkes25 Feb 2009 2:23 a.m. PST

Get rid of the public stifle count and all the fuss and needless bother that stifles cause around here would go away. If folks didn't know how many stifles they had we wouldn't have this endless and pointless soap opera about them. They just wouldn't be an issue, and this business of who has stifled whom would not even have arisen.

But curiously, the way they work seems designed to cause strife and controversy, rather than actually provide a useful, beneficial function to the membership.

Gwartizan25 Feb 2009 3:02 a.m. PST

I'm all for making stifles invisible to everyone. It should be just a means to mute someone you don't want to hear from. It shouldn't be use as a way to upset people or enable some others to brag about the stifle counts.
Just allow people to privately mute others and do away with all the drama.
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Topkick89025 Feb 2009 3:45 a.m. PST

Personally I have no problem telling someone that they are coming across like a floater in the comode and think stifles are kinda silly, but I side with those who want to keep thier stifles hidden. Until they are ready to stand in the bright light and say "I think you're an idiot" no one should have the right to drag them kicking and screaming into it

Gwartizan25 Feb 2009 4:20 a.m. PST

I hear Wargames Factory are going to produce a sprue of plastic stifles, so we won't need these threads any more

Buff Orpington25 Feb 2009 4:22 a.m. PST

Bin the count completely.

red dreads25 Feb 2009 4:36 a.m. PST

I would agree with Farty but I've stifled him……..twice

Dervel Fezian25 Feb 2009 5:48 a.m. PST

I say we move Stifles to Baltimore now!

It is totally unacceptable to hold them where they are, it will be impossible to grow them to their full potential.
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oh, wait..wrong topic sorry never mind.

Dervel Fezian25 Feb 2009 5:51 a.m. PST

Oh, and John is correct. It is silly to even talk about.

Stifles do not hurt the person stifled. There is no benefit to making them public other than to stir up trouble.

SirGiles7125 Feb 2009 6:02 a.m. PST

John is correct … I'd just get rid of it all together.
If not then a stifle should only last a defined period … say 6 months. I can't imagine that the person who stifled the other can even remember why they did so after a while.
Better yet why not have the stifle work both ways … if you stifle me I shouldn't have to listen to you either. Happy ignorance for all!

Gwartizan25 Feb 2009 6:07 a.m. PST

Better yet why not have the stifle work both ways … if you stifle me I shouldn't have to listen to you either. Happy ignorance for all!

It's gone really quiet round here. Where is everyone?

Personal logo Dentatus Sponsoring Member of TMP Fezian25 Feb 2009 6:16 a.m. PST

I'm with the OFM on this. Just leave it alone.

jdpintex25 Feb 2009 6:40 a.m. PST

I'm with Dom, remove the stifle count.

15th Hussar25 Feb 2009 6:51 a.m. PST

I agree w/OFM too…DESPITE the fact that he actually reads/listens to the FUDGE Report….e-GADS!

I have three current members on stifle…you never hear me mention them (why would I talk about them) and I really have no interest in what they have to say.

Now, if someone stifles someone and then blabs about them in public here on TMP…that's another issue, but one for the Editor to deal with.

I can live w/the fact that some people here actually may not want to read what I write…by the same token, I can live a very long life never even having to to see their names up in print either.

(Question to the Ed: If we stiff someone, is there a way not to see the "Message Header/Title they posted to begin with?

Personal logo Inari7 Supporting Member of TMP25 Feb 2009 7:27 a.m. PST

What did John say? :)

tabletopreview dot com25 Feb 2009 7:49 a.m. PST

Stifling is bloody crazy. This is a FORUM – if people are reading threads where potentially most of the posts could be invisible to them, no wonder this place feels so damn disjointed to read. Add that to the lack of a "threaded" layout like normal forums and it just adds to the mess.

Why would anyone want to hide bits of a forum and then feel they can still contribute? Madness.

David
tabletopreview.com

Thomas Whitten25 Feb 2009 8:04 a.m. PST

John is spot on. I also agree with Neotacha and Plynkes. I also agree with everyone who agreed with John, Neotacha and Plynkes. And for those who disagreed with John, Neotacha and Plynkes, I disgree with you and whomever agreed with you.

Irish Marine25 Feb 2009 8:28 a.m. PST

Too many bedwetters and lurkers. I have never heard of so many people who are afriad of others how do some of you cope with the real world.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP25 Feb 2009 8:42 a.m. PST

That question could be directed straight back at you Irish Marine – you're the one who seems to think a stifle is a carefully calculated personal insult rather than the equivalent of habitually skipping a column you don't like in the newspaper….

Condottiere25 Feb 2009 8:44 a.m. PST

Rich Knapton wrote:

Then I noticed John Holly has way more than me. And I forgot about the whole thing.

Most coming from the old CA Board--they don't count, 'cause it's expected. And, the post count was wiped out from that board, yet the stifles remain. GO figure.

You, on the other-hand have a stifle to post ratio that one can only marvel at: every 81.35 times you post you manage to Bleeped text someone off. evil grin My ratio is rather modest in comparison.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP25 Feb 2009 8:45 a.m. PST

Irish, you dopn't get it. No one is afraid of the people they stifle. They are just tired of hearing the same old Bleeped text coming from them.
When is the last time you said, "Oh my god! I am missing Keith Olberman!" (I am guessing that you would never deliberately tune in to his show… grin )

I am very much at ease with the fact that 63 people cannot be bothered to read what I say, and if there is an automatic function to help them out with ignoring me, so much the better.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP25 Feb 2009 8:46 a.m. PST

John Holly, I will have you know that I EARNED mine the hard way. No CA for me! grin

Gwartizan25 Feb 2009 9:00 a.m. PST

Too many bedwetters and lurkers. I have never heard of so many people who are afriad of others how do some of you cope with the real world.

I had to laugh when I read that. This isn't the real world, it's just a hobby forum. Most people have far more important things going on in their lives than to worry about who is or isn't reading what they type here!

Stop worrying about the dampness of other people's mattresses and have a laugh instead.

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Irish Marine25 Feb 2009 9:50 a.m. PST

I do get it! What is the big deal of knowing who has stifled you and why? The only answer would be fear, what else could it be, especially on a page such as this. 9 times out of 10 you will never meet anyone from TMP so why be afriad telling who you have stifled and why.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP25 Feb 2009 10:17 a.m. PST

What a lot of Bleeped text…. It's nothing to do with fear, but rather that it's simply none of the world's Bleeped texting business who people choose to read and who they choose to ignore. Additionally, the internet being what it is, it'd create a lot of pointlessly petty feuds as stiflees sound off with rants such as "these 45 bedwetters and idiots can't grasp how valuable my contribution is"…. 'Scuse bleeping, but your rather bizarre viewpoint is beginning to annoy the hell out of me now, maybe I should go make my first stifle…?

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian25 Feb 2009 10:23 a.m. PST

The fact that the topic is even being brought to a vote shows that the Editor is considering it.

Or that I had a really good idea of how the vote would turn out. grin

Gwartizan25 Feb 2009 10:25 a.m. PST

I do get it! What is the big deal of knowing who has stifled you and why? The only answer would be fear, what else could it be, especially on a page such as this. 9 times out of 10 you will never meet anyone from TMP so why be afriad telling who you have stifled and why.

But why does that mean so much to you? What reason could you possibly have for wanting to find out who stifled you?

People tend to use nicknames to post here. Does that mean we are all too scared to reveal our own identities? Are you scared to reveal your identity? Probably not. My guess is that people just like to keep a bit of distance between real-life and their hobby.

In the case of stifles, I expect they just don't want anything to do with the person they stifled rather than jumping up and down shouting "Look it was me that stifled you, take that you cad. That'll teach you to mess with me you bounder!"

Gwartizan25 Feb 2009 10:32 a.m. PST

The fact that the topic is even being brought to a vote shows that the Editor is considering it.

Or that I had a really good idea of how the vote would turn out.

Or that a bit of controversy helps keep the monthly post count up.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP25 Feb 2009 10:39 a.m. PST


The fact that the topic is even being brought to a vote shows that the Editor is considering it.

Or that I had a really good idea of how the vote would turn out.


Or, that you like to push people's buttons, like John the OFM, Irish Marine, etc., knowing how we will over-react. grin

I see. We are just dupes in your fiendish plan. Are we THAT predictable?

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP25 Feb 2009 10:40 a.m. PST

As Bill's dropped by, here's a question for him specifically.

Mr Editor, sir, what is the purpose, as *you* intend it, of the stifle function?

a) A way of editing out the posts of those who irritate you.
b) A way of "punishing" people for objectionable posting habits.

If the answer is (a), please explain the purpose of the stifle count….

Dom.

Irish Marine25 Feb 2009 10:50 a.m. PST

Like I said fear!

Gwartizan25 Feb 2009 11:00 a.m. PST

Like I said fear!

Why are you scared Irish? No-one here can hurt you.
Look… at the push of a button kyoteblue is gone, but he can't hurt me.
You don't have to be scared of people stifling you without telling you who they are ;-)

nazrat25 Feb 2009 11:21 a.m. PST

He's apparently afraid his mattress will be wet again tonight! 8)=

Gwartizan25 Feb 2009 11:30 a.m. PST

Apparently some anonymous bed-wetter sneaks in every night and wets his bed. You can understand why he wants to track them down really.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP25 Feb 2009 11:37 a.m. PST

It would annoy me, too.

aecurtis Fezian25 Feb 2009 11:44 a.m. PST

Then why is your tongue doing that… thing, at the thought of it?

Allen

Cyrus the Great25 Feb 2009 11:49 a.m. PST

Bill's getting ready for TMP's March Sweeps!

GoodBye25 Feb 2009 12:23 p.m. PST

Too many bedwetters and lurkers. I have never heard of so many people who are afriad of others how do some of you cope with the real world.

OK Irish, since you really aren't offering anything positive here except name calling and since I don't push the splat (!) and since I've gone public already. You've earned a stifle, it's temporary at the moment; however, continue to behave in this manner and it will be permanent!

Oh and I don't fear you, not in the least. I just can't be bothered to read this nonsense from you. Frankly having discussed other more important items with you I expected better of you. In fact I'm just a little disappointed in your attitude. But then I own those emotions you don't and I have the right to act upon them in a way that causes no harm to anyone, don't I?

Now folks isn't that better then just quietly stifling IM????

Or does doing it in public get everybodies wieners all tingly because now Irish and I have to meet after school?

As I have said before quit acting like a bunch of victims, quit looking for carp to be offended by, worry about yourself!

Geeeesh!

Irish Marine25 Feb 2009 12:24 p.m. PST

I sleep in a Hammock!

Condottiere25 Feb 2009 12:41 p.m. PST

I sleep in a Hammock!

Even when stationed on land?

Irish Marine25 Feb 2009 12:50 p.m. PST

See wasn't that simple nothing to be afriad of!

Caesar25 Feb 2009 12:53 p.m. PST

A netted hammock that allows wetting to fall to the floor so that there is no bed to clean up?

Gwartizan25 Feb 2009 12:56 p.m. PST

Anyone else enjoying the irony of someone posting under a pseudonym complaining about people stifling anonymously ;-)

Condottiere25 Feb 2009 1:27 p.m. PST

A netted hammock that allows wetting to fall to the floor so that there is no bed to clean up?

Better put down some wee-pads.

Irish Marine25 Feb 2009 1:47 p.m. PST

Nope just slide one the cats litter boxes under the hammock and your set.

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