
"OOB For Monmouth Courthouse" Topic
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| histdean | 10 Feb 2009 12:06 p.m. PST |
Does anyone know where I can get an order of battle for the AWI battle of Monmouth, with individual unit strengths? I have found a few with battalion and brigade totals but nothing yet with regimental strengths. Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
John the OFM  | 10 Feb 2009 12:18 p.m. PST |
In the American Revolution, a "battalion" IS a regiment. All the combatants, even the Hessians, had one battalion regiments. The old rules set "1776" has a Monmouth scenario, with unit strengths in figures. Since 1776 uses a 1:20 ratio, the conversion is easy. |
McKinstry  | 10 Feb 2009 1:02 p.m. PST |
Greg Novack is the author of two excellent books that conatin OOB's for virtually every engagement of note in the AWI. I'm fairly certain On Military matters carries them. |
| GiloUK | 11 Feb 2009 9:12 a.m. PST |
Or you could acquire one or both of the scenario books for the "British Grenadier!" rules (which are perfectly adaptable for other rules). The first book has a "later Monmouth" scenario, whilst the second one has an "early Monmouth" scenario. Both have full unit-by-unit orbats for each side, at 1:20. |
| histdean | 11 Feb 2009 11:43 a.m. PST |
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| Thomas Mante | 15 Feb 2009 7:59 p.m. PST |
Have you tried the Osprey Camapian volume: Monmouth Courthouse by Brendan Morrissey? |
| histdean | 22 Feb 2009 6:23 p.m. PST |
Yes
the OOB in the Osprey is not detailed enough. |
| Supercilius Maximus | 28 Feb 2009 3:24 p.m. PST |
What are you looking for – everyone's names? ;^)) I doubt you'll find anything more detailed – the Crown Forces strengths in the Osprey (down to unit level, IIRC) are based on the victualling returns for the very morning of the battle. Those of the Continental Army are brigade strengths for late May/early June 1778, because by this stage of the war, the Continental Army had ceased producing returns from individual battalions/regiments as most of these had become too small to make all the paperwork worthwhile, whilst the increasing use of homogenous brigades drawn from a single State made it un-necessary (see "The Sinews of Independence" edited by Charles H Lesser, which contains all the surviving returns from every Department of the Continental Army right through the war). Don't forget that, following von Steuben's reforms, battalions were supposed (I emphasise supposed) to be of a uniform size anyway, so dividing the brigade strength by the number of battalions will give you a close approximation in most cases. There would have been exceptions, where a brigade might have, say, two large units and one small one, but frankly there's no way of finding out. |
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