"New Martian Range in 28mm" Topic

Sorry if you were sucked in by the heading, but it isn't quite ready yet. Go to Wargames Factory & tell them you want lots of sprues, and it will be. Hopefully!

For the tabletop, RPGs or those like me who think you wargame and the reality is you just end up collecting them and occasionally playing, here is a new source for 'traditional' Martians for you.

I submitted two suggestions, with Barsoom in mind – Red/Canal Martians, being the traditional red-skinned types of the city states, and Native Martians, being large, four-armed and potentially green (depends on how you paint them).

A note – you aren't held to the order, you get to see some samples first.

To vote/order or just see the suggestion, go to link They are listed as
red/canal martians and native martians. Which should be enough to throw the legal teams off the scent.

I've also submitted a suggestion for a sprue of plantmen & white apes. If enough interest is shown, we can get into mounted martians, banths, etc.

Yep…just wasted a whole minute of my life.

Wargames factory? I guess I'll not bother then.

Ah. Queue here for a negative, prejudiced response.

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I'm still puzzled by why so many of the Wargames Factory League submissions are for things that already exist in 28mm?

Mike

They're not plastic… :-)

There are fine examples of Martians in 28mm…this is just silly…at least go with the recent rash of common cold responses like "sounds good but do they come in (insert one of the following)6mm 10mm 15mm 20mm".

The martian gaming market, a niche within a niche within a niche tucked inside another niche (gaming:28mm miniatures
:science fiction:pulp:ERB/Barsoom:2 factions:etc..).

Sorry my friend, IMO this niche has been filled already.

Try a different scale/size or subject and make your thread heading less misleading and you will most likely get more attention to your goal.

Negative Yes.

Prejudiced…no, I just don't rate Wargame Factory products.

If I'd known this was yet another thread about their 'pick a range' system, I wouldn't have bothered to click.

Because I was led to believe that there may be something interesting instead of Wargames Factory rubbish, I felt the need to express my negativity.

Prejudiced…no. I generally don't like rubbish, no matter where it comes from.

A very sad bunch of reactions…
"I'm still puzzled by why so many of the Wargames Factory League submissions are for things that already exist in 28mm?"
Because people ask for them.
Because some 28mm metals are awful, and plastics are often better proportioned – recent Foundry SYW frenchs look like distorted Orcs, the Airfix and Atlantic plastics decades ago were far better propotioned.
Because plastics may be more propitious to easier conversions, headswapping s&c…

"sounds good but do they come in (insert one of the following) 6mm 10mm 15mm 20mm".
Because 28mm is the best scale. 200% personal of course; yet of the hundred of battle reports I saw on the web -Ancient, Medieval, Renaissance, Lace Wars, VSF…- all the most spectacular, inspirational, eye-candy… were in 28mm. Would the aesthetical appeal be unimportant, we would play boardgames.

"The martian gaming market, a niche within a niche within a niche tucked inside another niche (gaming:28mm miniatures:science fiction:pulp:ERB/Barsoom:2 factions:etc..)."
OK, I know some fanboys would not -could not even think possible- to play WH40K with other minis than Official GW®©™ ones, no more than using GW minis in other settings than the GW Official®©™ 40K universe.
BUT -if good- Martian minis have a *lot* of OTHER potential. Of course they are potentially ET humanoids of the corresponding level in *any* Sci-Fi setting; with at most minor conversions -easier with plastics- they can (depending of their weapons) be Elves, humans on Tekumel, some culture in Atlantean or Hyborian times, the peculiar race of a newly discovered continent in a Lace Wars or VSF setting…

Who and why can one a priori shoot down such a project? Who and why could regret any increase of our choice?

It's WF prerogative to decide what to make and people's call to buy them or not. If there are things you would rather see them create…put in a request.

Meh.

I thought it said 18mm. Close enough to the One True Scale.

Color me not interested.

Well, I doubt it will get off the ground but i registered a interest.

Thanks for the correct link, I must have cut & pasted slightly wrong.

Yes, I don't have much hopes either that these will see production, but you never know, and there is only one way to find out.

And I am well aware that there are other similar ranges available. But I don't like them, they don't seem as true to the more simple descriptions that I read into the books. If you read the description I put in for the red martians they could be used for any ancient undiscovered/fantasy civilisation – Atlantean, core-of-earth, your own, and so on. Plus, it's not as though all the entries for the new figures aren't availbale elsewhere already!

Terrement, I agree, it should have been 54mm. Sorry about that! I was thinking this morning of putting in a 54mm request or two.

God's own scale? 1/600th of course…

Gracias,

Glenn

Oh, iceaxe,

To paraphrase Aragorn from the LOTR movie, "That was not nice."

I'm surprised you were treated so benignly. Glad, but surprised.

Gracias,

Glenn

What surprises me -and sadly- is the nature of the reactions.
The Wargames Factory Leagues seems to function like the Eureka100 program, which allowed interested wargamers to obtain 'oddities' such as Amazon cataphracts, Arquebusiers de Grassin – 1745 and female SYW soldiers. Types that mainstream ranges would never cover. Plastic adds some advantages.

So where is the problem? Are WF minis so ugly? They could hardly be more so than some Dixon, Foundry, &c… If they fail to sell them, it would be their own problem.

Overlapping with existing ranges? Nobody complains 28mm SYW or Napoleonic Prussians are available from numerous manufacturers – on the opposite, the more the better. As for Barsoom minis (Red Martians have a far larger 'moonlighting' potential than the S1899 ones with their bizarre feets), since the disappearance of the (Heritage?) 'official' range we have only the 'Emphatically NOT from Barsoom' Bronze Age one. Rather pleasant, but one can only rejoice from additional diversity and choice.

Truth to tell I fail to see who would not be glad to have more of our 'toys' to chose from; who would try to deter such attempt – that is, apart from other manufacturers, their employees, shareholders and maybe their most enslaved fanboys?

Not interested by the range, but interested, intrigued, worried by the reactions.

Jean-Louis

Although I am not a particular fan of the miniatures, I was more annoyed that the title of the thread was misleading.

If I'd known the thread was yet another Wargames Factory post, I wouldn't have bothered looking.

I applaud extra variety but I also don't like poor quality/design…I'd rather have less at a usable quality than so many that I have to search through it all to find the decent bits.

Hopefully, Wargames Factory will improve with practice and maybe I'll be tempted to buy from them in the future…but from the feedback I've read about getting the ideas into production in a good timescale and from the products I have seen they need to improve a lot before then.

Just my opinion.

For the record, I have plastics from various companies, so it isn't the medium that puts me off.

Insomniac, sorry, I caught your post the wrong way. Still don't agree, but you're not as prejudiced as I thought you were… ;-)

I'd like a range of 28mm Martian plastics, don't get me wrong, but I can't imagine they'd be worth making.

I don't agree…I think that a range of 28mm Martian Plastics WOULD be a good idea…just not necessarily made by WF…maybe when they get their proportions sorted out and veer away from the 'squat' look…

I'd really like 4-armed Martians in plastic…think of the converting possibilities!

In the grand game…all things we desire would be cool to have available…Sam's or WalMart of gaming…most everything at super super super low prices.

Reality, the program from WF is a fun idea…always feels good to express yourself and your desires of the moment. And if they came to light, well cool, even better.

IMO, with the limited funds availble to the niche market of miniatures gaming…the companies that have already commited to making miniatures for a given theme should be supported…if at all possible.

If they make them, it is expected that we would buy them.

Now the idea that the availible martians are not to your liking for whatever reason is perfectly fine…but who is to say the WF version will meet your vision?

Just a thought. I am all for making of the cool stuff, the materials do not matter to me…metal, resin, plastic, etc..

I made green martians with GW plastic kroots…maybe your answer is to convert to meet your desired look?

…and here i was, thinking Gods own scale was 1:1.
Guess you learn something everyday on TMP.

So, if Gods own scale is 1/600 im realy supposed to be over 1km tall? No wonder my home seems small at times…

I guess the look of WF figures isnt to everyones taste, but to me they seem alright (maybe not the best, but certainly not the worst). And as far as i know no one else is offering this in plastic, so they are pretty much top dog if they make them.