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badwargamer13 Jan 2009 11:10 a.m. PST

Any ideas on how to make water splashes? By that I mean the plumes of water you get when a shell lands in the water.

I was thinking along the lines of some sort of base with cotton wool or something along those lines.
They would be for 15mm gaming, although we are using 1:200 ships.

Personal logo Gungnir Supporting Member of TMP13 Jan 2009 11:14 a.m. PST

I've seen golf tees used as splashes.

Waterloo13 Jan 2009 11:20 a.m. PST

Litko Aerosystems makes splash markers.

Jay Wirth Fezian13 Jan 2009 11:53 a.m. PST

Renaissance Ink X Fine Flocking Gel can be used. The Gel dries clear and when still a bit tacky can be shaped into "ripples" or "splashes".

Check the web site renaissanceink.net

Palewarrior13 Jan 2009 12:33 p.m. PST

I had a library book ages ago by an American modeller, "famous" for wild west box dioramas. I think he used a type of putty covered in aquarium silicon sealant.
I cant recall the name of the guy nor the book…
so this isnt much use really.

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian13 Jan 2009 12:36 p.m. PST

I have always used cotton swabs. (not the Q-tip ear picking kind) Cut yourself a base of say, matte board – maybe a circle 1/4" in diameter. Glue a half a cotton swab to the base with White Glue. Wait until it is dry, then pull the swab to shape. Give it a little twist to add in some strength, then spray it with practically anything clear…. Dullcoat, gloss sealant, etc. Wait until dry. Add just a touch of see-colored paint around the lowest parts of the splash.

Oddball13 Jan 2009 12:56 p.m. PST

Stone Mountain miniatures made 15mm Cornshock that are perfect for what you need.

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Just paint them up as blue with white spray at the top. I did a dry brush of dark blue, light blue and white at the top and use them for shell splashes in my 1/600 Ironclads games.

They are great and at 24 in a pack it's a good deal.

wehrmacht13 Jan 2009 1:05 p.m. PST

A buddy uses small screws, sitting on their heads and painted white and blue.

w.

Top Gun Ace13 Jan 2009 1:09 p.m. PST

Washers suitably painted, and then with polyfil (pillow stuffing material) glued to them.

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian13 Jan 2009 1:18 p.m. PST

Clydeside makes small, medium and large metal shell splashes in 1:1200. I use the small for 1:6000. Superior carries Clydeside in the US.

Ceterman13 Jan 2009 2:21 p.m. PST

Thanks McKinstry! I was looking for something like these myself for our Ironclads game. Now if we can only get Eric Hotz to ship our river mat (we paid for it last September) we'll be set!
Peter

Dan 05513 Jan 2009 2:41 p.m. PST

Another vote for golf tees (white). Try placing one next to a ship – you'll be surprised at how good they look for how simple they are.

Farstar13 Jan 2009 2:44 p.m. PST

Flagship games had some as well.

rampantlion13 Jan 2009 3:09 p.m. PST

When I was the US distributor for Feudal Castings they made a shell splash casting and I sold a ton of them. DOn't know who is casting them now, but I think LKM still owns the molds, but not sure.

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP13 Jan 2009 6:53 p.m. PST

Another vote for Polyfill--it's dirt cheap, provides tons in a bag, and keeps it's shape, unlike cotton, over time.

Also as suggested, mounting the "splash" on a metal washer (painted to match your surface) provides stability.

Depending on the sizes you wish to make, you can glue a splash directly to the base, or even use varying lengths of small gauge dowel or similar to provide a surface to glue Polyfill to and around to make taller splashes.

I've not tried to make 15mm or smaller, but those I've made for 25/28mm Gunboat games look fine (to me)--and have for almost 15 years now.

Have Fun!

TVAG

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP13 Jan 2009 8:30 p.m. PST

Made mine of small washers with greenstuff caled for 1/2400. They were decent and a friend made lead castings of them and cast a bunch more.

terrain sherlock14 Jan 2009 12:34 a.m. PST

Never use the things myself.. all my shots hit, what..? :-)

mandt215 Jan 2009 6:32 a.m. PST

I like the Litko stuff; they also make explosions, smoke, and burning wreckage markers.

John D Salt02 Feb 2009 3:33 p.m. PST

You're going to hate this, I can tell, but we used to use (with 1:2400 ships) simple cones of white paper. Dirt cheap, easy to make in any size you like, and look very effective.

Under the rules we used, you placed a shell-splash marker for each ship (or battery, if the main and secondary batteries were engaging separate targets) against its target. The number of these modified the hit dice needed, to account for interference with each other's gunnery.

If your rules would have you behave like a (Fletcher) Pratt, then you'll need even more of the things, which makes paper even more attractive.

All the best,

John.

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