"Looking for picture of Dayak war canoe" Topic
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| Pijlie | 01 Dec 2008 1:12 p.m. PST |
I am planning a Kris & The Flame game for the christmas holidays and am building boats and such for it. Now I need two Dayak war canoes. The pictures I have found on the web are all wargame models and picture them as slender, long vessels with a high-raised fighting platform on top of it. Now a slender vessel like that is not very stable and would surely topple over when a few warriors would run to and fro on such a high platform, so I am having a hard time believing the dimensions of these models. But perhaps I am wrong and the vessels were heavily ballasted in some way. Does anyone have a contemporary picture of a Dyak war canoe from the mid 19th century? |
| Cacique Caribe | 01 Dec 2008 2:27 p.m. PST |
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 chicklewis  | 01 Dec 2008 2:28 p.m. PST |
Pijlie, I have always felt as you do, and have never been able to find good pictures of such canoes with raised fighting platforms. I concluded, in the absense of actual evidence, that any such raised fighting platforms must have been built on double canoes or on canoes with outriggers on one or both sides. I would purely LOVE it if some clever TMPer could link us to a picture. |
| chicklewis | 01 Dec 2008 2:31 p.m. PST |
Cacique comes through again posting links while I typed the previous ! Double canoes, AND canoes with outriggers ! Brilliant work. Cacique Caribe has THE most powerful Search-Fu of anyone I know. Thanks, amigo, Chick |
| chicklewis | 01 Dec 2008 2:37 p.m. PST |
NOw FINALLY I can dig out my Scheltrum Dyak canoes and finish 'em up, adding outriggers on both sides. Chick |
| Cacique Caribe | 01 Dec 2008 2:41 p.m. PST |
Thanks Chick. Here to help, where and when I can. CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 01 Dec 2008 3:34 p.m. PST |
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| Pijlie | 01 Dec 2008 9:25 p.m. PST |
Fantastic! Outriggers like I suspected! Thanks manytimes! I suspect the wargame models are derived from the Tony Wells picture or its source. But being en profile, the outriggers are not visible. So IŽll build them with double outriggers AND fighting platforms. That way they look believable. Thanks for the Burroughs link as well. I will base my KATF game on the old Sandokan series (even have a 20mm Sandokan and Yanez ready!) but you can never have enough inspiration. |
| Cacique Caribe | 04 Dec 2009 4:34 p.m. PST |
Wow. Check this out: link Dan |
| Rudysnelson | 04 Dec 2009 4:38 p.m. PST |
I thought Dyaks were in Burma as well? Burma had a long history of war canoes with dozens of men in them. And I think they had raised platforms as well. |
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