| Pijlie | 01 Dec 2008 2:12 p.m. PST |
I am planning a Kris & The Flame game for the christmas holidays and am building boats and such for it. Now I need two Dayak war canoes. The pictures I have found on the web are all wargame models and picture them as slender, long vessels with a high-raised fighting platform on top of it. Now a slender vessel like that is not very stable and would surely topple over when a few warriors would run to and fro on such a high platform, so I am having a hard time believing the dimensions of these models. But perhaps I am wrong and the vessels were heavily ballasted in some way. Does anyone have a contemporary picture of a Dyak war canoe from the mid 19th century? |
| Cacique Caribe | 01 Dec 2008 3:27 p.m. PST |
|
 chicklewis  | 01 Dec 2008 3:28 p.m. PST |
Pijlie, I have always felt as you do, and have never been able to find good pictures of such canoes with raised fighting platforms. I concluded, in the absense of actual evidence, that any such raised fighting platforms must have been built on double canoes or on canoes with outriggers on one or both sides. I would purely LOVE it if some clever TMPer could link us to a picture. |
| chicklewis | 01 Dec 2008 3:31 p.m. PST |
Cacique comes through again posting links while I typed the previous ! Double canoes, AND canoes with outriggers ! Brilliant work. Cacique Caribe has THE most powerful Search-Fu of anyone I know. Thanks, amigo, Chick |
| chicklewis | 01 Dec 2008 3:37 p.m. PST |
NOw FINALLY I can dig out my Scheltrum Dyak canoes and finish 'em up, adding outriggers on both sides. Chick |
| Cacique Caribe | 01 Dec 2008 3:41 p.m. PST |
Thanks Chick. Here to help, where and when I can. CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 01 Dec 2008 4:34 p.m. PST |
|
| Pijlie | 01 Dec 2008 10:25 p.m. PST |
Fantastic! Outriggers like I suspected! Thanks manytimes! I suspect the wargame models are derived from the Tony Wells picture or its source. But being en profile, the outriggers are not visible. So I´ll build them with double outriggers AND fighting platforms. That way they look believable. Thanks for the Burroughs link as well. I will base my KATF game on the old Sandokan series (even have a 20mm Sandokan and Yanez ready!) but you can never have enough inspiration. |
| Cacique Caribe | 04 Dec 2009 5:34 p.m. PST |
Wow. Check this out: link Dan |
| Rudysnelson | 04 Dec 2009 5:38 p.m. PST |
I thought Dyaks were in Burma as well? Burma had a long history of war canoes with dozens of men in them. And I think they had raised platforms as well. |
