"15mm Irish for 1798" Topic
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mashrewba | 02 Nov 2008 3:47 p.m. PST |
Does anyone have any recommendations for suitable minis for modelling the 1798 Rebellion in 15mm. Thanks. |
Jeremy Sutcliffe | 02 Nov 2008 4:03 p.m. PST |
I suspect your best bet would be to look at what's available as Apanish/Portuguese irregulars. |
Supercilius Maximus | 02 Nov 2008 4:21 p.m. PST |
Chariot Miniatures (now Magister Militum?) made/make an excellent "Paris Mob" many of whom had pikes; it included musket-armed figures in civvy and ragged military clothing and some belligerent women. You just paint the "liberty" caps green instead of red, or convert them to the "flower pot" hats. Most Spanish militia figures would also be suitable with a little alteration (eg removing/filing down sandals) – try AB, Battle Honours, or Fantassin. Certain figures in the Minifigs AWI/F&IW American militia/provincial packs that have round/floppy hats. Leave them as they are, or trim the brims nice and close, then build up the crown for "flower pot" hats. Also, most War of 1812 ranges have US volunteers/militia in "top" hats and normal civilian dress (we Irish were never into buckskins much, unfortunately, so you'll need to ignore those types). Sometimes the hats on these figures can be quite tall, and to be strictly accurate, you should snip a little off or file them down a wee bit, as the crown of the item was noticeably lower in the 1790s, but that's really down to how far you feel the need to go. Hope that helped. |
vtsaogames | 02 Nov 2008 6:25 p.m. PST |
Minifigs USA has Vendee rebels with scythes, muskets and such. Not listed on the website but ask via email. I have a pack of them. 24 figures, 12 poses, including a woman with two muskets. |
mashrewba | 03 Nov 2008 5:02 a.m. PST |
Fantastic-thanks folks- The Essex Spanish guerrillas look good and also the Minifigs Napoleonic sailors. 1812 stuff-hadn't thought of that=-thanks Super! |
AonghusONia | 03 Nov 2008 9:53 a.m. PST |
I am using a mixture of the following: Old glory Tyroean Guerrillas Attacking and Skirmishing With Leaders: I was afraid that there were going to be a lot of lederhosen and those little austrian hats with the feathers but no the vast majority of these figures are usable. Irregular miniatures League of Augsburg range irish rebels & civilians with assorted wepons. The chariot mob & minifig vendee packs are both great. There are a few phrygian caps that would need work. Otherwise they are perfect. I sent Top Dye at GFI some pictures and he sent me some samples that were spot on. I need to send him an order. As well as chariot navagiator miniatures also sell hallmark miniatures & in their League of Augsburg range they have LA021 Peasant, standing with pitchfork, shortsleeves LA023 Peasant, standing with musket, shirtsleeves both were perfect I also got: LA020 Scytheman/ Pikeman, standing, hat and coat, no sword but I thought he was too uniformed with his floppy hat & long coat. Also the rebellion was during the summer so I am mostly going to go with figures in shirtsleeves. Lancashire games have a french revolution range with two packs E1 Vendean Infantry with musket E2 Vendean Infantry with Improvised Weapons I have some samples that look good I am planning to get more. I am also plannng to get some AWI militia but I don't know which manufacturer is best. I am afraid of buckskin & tricorns. Does anyone know of a manufacturer that sells figures seperatley instead of a mix that has militia in shirtsleeves & bearheaded. Lastly I am doing some french revoltution Blancs for the irish that were given French uniforms after the french landing at killala. Bishop Stack's account mentions a sailor gluing lepord print paper to helments & then standing on a barrel & ramming the helmets on the heads of Irish volunteers as they filed past regardless of whether they fitted or not. I am going to paint their coats blue instead of white though becuase latter on it mentions militia deserters being given blue coats. I'm painting up my french & british at the moment so no painted photos but I will take some shots of the figures I have unpainted to give you an idea of whats out there. |
Robert le Diable | 03 Nov 2008 12:00 p.m. PST |
In addition to the various figures mentioned above, there are (or, perhaps, used to be) Minifigs "Peasants" in, I think, their Mediaeval range; I started Irish civilian figures/insurgents for "The Year of Liberty" some time before those figures closer in date to the 1790s were available. With regard to buckskins, by the way, a little work with a file or scalpel blade can soon produce an acceptable-seeming Cota Beag, and Phrygian caps can easily be carved to represent peasants with long hair or, with a closer cut, a few Croppies. For figures wearing a Cota Mor, I'm sure foot Cossacks (Old Glory, Essex even) could be pressed into service; remember the poem, "The pockets of our greatcoats filled with barley
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Supercilius Maximus | 03 Nov 2008 1:37 p.m. PST |
<<I am also plannng to get some AWI militia but I don't know which manufacturer is best. I am afraid of buckskin & tricorns.>> The Minifigs militia are all in coats or shirts/waistcoats; some have round (floppy) hats, others have tricornes, but if you snip away the brims and then file down the crown, you can reduce them to bare heads. <<Also the rebellion was during the summer so I am mostly going to go with figures in shirtsleeves.>> My experiences of Irish summers was that the rain just got warmer – but then it was Kerry. Another potential source that noboiy has mentioned so far is the ECW. Certain figures – civilians, and pikemen in floppy hats (cut off any plumes) and no body armour, will not be far off the mark; Minifigs are good here, especially as you can cut down the pikes and avoid the "spaghetti" problem that haunts pikemen with cast-on weapons. You might need to file the garter bows off the stockings. Also, the Minifigs 1790s British and French ranges will provide all sorts of "characters" in the quasi-military outfits worn by many UI officers and rank-and-file, militia (and Regular) deserters; etc etc. Whatever the limitations of the rank-and-file figures, Minifigs do superb command and artillery sets that offer enormous conversion potential in terms of both pose and uniform/weaponry/equipment. |
Duc de Limbourg | 03 Nov 2008 2:50 p.m. PST |
Allain Touller vendee figures are partly suitable I think: link |
mashrewba | 03 Nov 2008 4:27 p.m. PST |
They certainly are!! What a fantastic response guys. |
Robert le Diable | 06 Nov 2008 8:53 a.m. PST |
I certainly agree with Supercilious Maximus about these 15mm Minifigs packs providing a great source of figures suitable for conversion; although he only got ashore in time to be arrested off Lough Suilbhe and conveyed to Leitir Ceanainn and thence to Baile Atha Cliath (all right, Dublin
), Tone held senior rank in the French Army at the time and there are a couple of contemporary prints of him in uniform. |
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