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Count Belisarius29 Oct 2008 3:36 p.m. PST

Hi,

Looking for info on McCall's Carolina/Georgia Light Horse at the battle of Cowpens. I've got the scenario for British Grenadier and it has the strength as 80 men (8 figs.). I've found other references that these were just mounted infantry/militia armed with sabres to boost Washington's forces v. the numerically superior Legion cavalry but only c.40 men mentioned. The scenario also suggests some would have been State (South Carolina?) troops possibly in light blue coats faced yellow.

I'm really just looking at fixing numbers and what figures to use (15mm). Freikorps do mounted infantry in tricorn so I thought maybe a mix of these and assorted dragoon figures in mixed uniforms? Just not sure what…

Any suggestions gratefully received…

Cheers

Andy

11th ACR29 Oct 2008 4:18 p.m. PST
vtsaogames29 Oct 2008 6:29 p.m. PST

Hmm. The mounted rifles I used in my Cowpens game looked pretty good then. But they routed, and Morgan got beat.

edinburghowl30 Oct 2008 4:44 a.m. PST

According to Babits as well as McCall's SC State troops there were also Va State Dragoons, NC State Dragoons, SC Guides and mounted militia volunteers from NC and SC for a total of approximately 150(excluding Washington's dragoons). So a mix of uniformed and militia types seems to be in order.

GiloUK30 Oct 2008 5:52 a.m. PST

Aren't these the figures that prompted the Eureka 100 club request for hunting shirted dragoons in helmets?

edinburghowl30 Oct 2008 6:09 a.m. PST

Probably- Troiani depicts one of the state units in helmet and hunting shirt.

Doc Ord30 Oct 2008 7:15 a.m. PST

That was my 100 Club request & supposedly it is in line for production.I had in mind "ragged continentals" on horseback with a mixture of hunting shirts, jackets & coats. Headgear would be round hats, tricornes & jockey caps.

KSmyth30 Oct 2008 9:17 a.m. PST

When I painted troops for Cowpens last spring, I put the two state dragoon units together and tried to piece together uniforms based on plates from the Company of Military Historians, and used the Front Rank dragoon figures I already had.

The dress for McCall's troops is highly speculative. I ended up using the mounted Kentucky militia from Old Glory in their Mad Anthony Wayne's Legion range. There is a variety of frontier dress that works for an ad hoc mounted militia unit--though they don't carry sabers.

K

Count Belisarius30 Oct 2008 3:08 p.m. PST

Thanks for the comments. I'm not sure if anyone does 15mm mounted in hunting shirts? I may just use the Freikorps mounted infantry in plain clothes for half the unit and then the rest a mix of dragoon figures in suitable uniforms for the Va State Dragoons and NC State Dragoons, although still not sure on uniforms for these.

Andy

Count Belisarius30 Oct 2008 3:18 p.m. PST

Thought I'd looked at the Company of Military Historians. There are some possibilities there for a colourful collection!

Andy

SwampfoxFL30 Oct 2008 5:34 p.m. PST

"According to Babits as well as McCall's SC State troops there were also Va State Dragoons, NC State Dragoons, SC Guides and mounted militia volunteers from NC and SC for a total of approximately 150(excluding Washington's dragoons)."

I've read Babit's , too and I think you'll find the total of approximately 150 INCLUDES Washington's men.

Count Belisarius31 Oct 2008 12:07 a.m. PST

This total of 150 seems to tie in with the scenario total of 16figs which is 160 at 1:10.

Andy

edinburghowl31 Oct 2008 2:06 a.m. PST

the OOB at the back of babits 'cowpens battlefield a walking guide' gives a total of 217 mounted rebels (though some units strengths appear to be educated guesses).

Count Belisarius31 Oct 2008 2:40 a.m. PST

Hi edinburghowl,
Would it be possible to post the OOB here or email me a scan of the page please? The walking guide is one I don't have and I'm starting to pull together the OOBs for Cowpens.

My email addy is: andy at belisarius dot org dot uk

Cheers

Andy

Personal logo Florida Tory Supporting Member of TMP31 Oct 2008 5:30 a.m. PST

The Cowpens Staff Ride and Battlefield Tour on the US Army's Command and General Staff College's web site has detailed OOB data:

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Rick

vtsaogames31 Oct 2008 7:33 a.m. PST

I went more with Babits which gave about 1400 for Morgan's force.

Thomas Mante31 Oct 2008 4:14 p.m. PST

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