| Stepman3 | 11 Jul 2008 4:03 p.m. PST |
How do "True North" miniatures messure uo to "FoW" miniatures? Are they compriable? |
| GrotGnome | 11 Jul 2008 4:20 p.m. PST |
what does "compriable" mean? |
aecurtis  | 11 Jul 2008 5:32 p.m. PST |
For that matter, what do "messure" and "uo" mean? |
| Stepman3 | 11 Jul 2008 6:01 p.m. PST |
O.K. Thanks for the english lesson. Comparable, Measure and up. Is that better? Now do you think that you might help me with an answer? |
| miscmini | 11 Jul 2008 6:06 p.m. PST |
Stepman3, it depends on what you're using to compare the minis. True North has a much larger selection, they are all metal, and except for a few minis they are one-piece. They "look" like the plane they represent…but the details are pretty much limited to canopy lines and controls surfaces (not a lot of panel lines – no ordnance). They are also about half the price, per mini, as a Battlefront mini. Battlefront minis are multi-part, resin and metal kits. They tend to have exaggerated panel lines (for the scale). Battlefront minis come with ordnance. As far as I know the minis are limited to IL-2s, P-40s, Typhoons, Hurricanes, Ju-87s, and in the future maybe a bubbletop P-47. Here's a comparison of Typhoons: TMP link Ju-87s Ju-87G from Battlefront on the left and Ju-87B from True North on the right. picture picture Multiple vendors picture
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picture picture picture picture picture picture picture picture Battlefront picture picture picture picture picture Hope this helps, Kevin |
| miscmini | 11 Jul 2008 6:29 p.m. PST |
…I forgot to mention… Both come with decals. The decals in the links I provided above are a mix of those that come with the kits, after market decals, and home-made decals. The Battlefront kits come with basic stands. The True North kits do not come with stands. Kevin |
| aecurtis | 11 Jul 2008 6:52 p.m. PST |
"Now do you think that you might help me with an answer?" Sure. See the many past reviews on this board. Unless the Editor's demolition of the former "scale" boards have caused threads to vanish… Allen |
| aecurtis | 11 Jul 2008 6:56 p.m. PST |
If the miniatures in question are in fact aircraft (then you're on the wrong board!)--there are plenty of True North reviews on the "WWII Aviation Product Reviews". Surviving reviews and comparisons of True North vehicles and figures are on the "WWII Discussion" board; they haven't been brought over here. Allen |
| miscmini | 11 Jul 2008 8:08 p.m. PST |
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| Stepman3 | 11 Jul 2008 8:27 p.m. PST |
You know what? This is turning into a P!$$!ng match. I don't want info about planes (although I do appreciate your research miscmini) I really just wanted answers about the infantry and cavalry models. Sorry i asked the question now. I thought I could get some info. I suppose not. |
| miscmini | 12 Jul 2008 5:02 a.m. PST |
Stepman3, my apologies. I assumed aircraft when I saw True North & Battlefront (the rut I'm currently stuck in). I don't have any of the cavalry models but I went through my unfinished minis and found some True North German heavy weapons troops and some Battlefront Russian heavy weapons troops. I eye-balled a couple of figures in different poses (next to each other). Some of the TN figures seemed a bit smaller/finer compared to the BF but then some of the TN figures seemed taller as well. If these troops represent the troop types for the two companies I personally wouldn't have a problem mixing and matching them on bases. Some of the TN figures seemed a bit smaller/finer compared to the BF but then some of the TN figures seemed taller as well. I tried a TMP "title" search on True North and came up with a couple of titles that compared TN minis to other lines including Battlefront. Kevin |
 Saber6  | 12 Jul 2008 8:36 a.m. PST |
Stepman3, Communication takes two. Only in your last post did you metion what you were looking for. |
| Stepman3 | 12 Jul 2008 10:41 a.m. PST |
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| Bellbottom | 13 Jul 2008 1:57 p.m. PST |
Stepman3,
I see that, like me, you are pretty much a novice to TMP. Please don't be disheartened by the assorted petty pedants and self-labelled humourists who leap out of the woodwork to be "helpful". Praise for Miscmini, just ignore the rest and don't be put off.
Unfortunately I am unable to assist your quest for a comparison, not having any True North gear, but I thought it was worth the effort to demonstrate that if you shout into a vacuum, you don't just get back vomit.
regards
Paul F |
| Stepman3 | 13 Jul 2008 2:56 p.m. PST |
Not disheartened, just a bit put off. Thier the ones that force me to be selective of those I play against/with. It's a game… |
| Stepman3 | 24 Aug 2009 2:25 p.m. PST |
Just revisiting a few of my older posts. Now that I'm not a complete TMP novice, I'm realizing that I have gotten much useful information. But then also I realize that there are still many "tools" on the board also. Ha ha, I guess folks don't change and what you might perceive as "wit" others perceive as ignorant. Anyway, as a buddy of mine ends each of his posts in a positive light, I'll mimic what he states…Good Gaming (to some). |
| Mal Wright | 25 Aug 2009 4:55 a.m. PST |
Stepman3. You must remember that while a lot of us on the TMP can assist with historical information, such ability is gained through study, reading(Books, researching the internet…and…ummm….the age that comes with working on all that.  Therefore having gained such knowledge, at the penalty of age, there are some of us who feel that we are entitled to be grumpy as well. Afer all we earnt it!!!  So you may understand that when someone posts a message, we may or may not react, according to the presentation of that request. Three spelling errors in 13 words is likely to somewhat grate on the nerves of the very people you wish to seek information from, even if, as in the case of Allen, they may usually be very diligent in passing on what they have learnt. Its sort of similar to the old saying that if you walk up to a Policeman and ask him a question, nicely, you will get a helpful answer. Walk up and annoy him is sure to get you the wrong answer!  Now as to your question. Most designers have their own style and its because of that most wargamers can pick up a figure and identify the maker. That can make it a bit hard to compare one with the other. Personally I think its irrelevant because in real life people all look different. They come tall, short, fat and skinny. Even those wearing the same uniform can look amazingly different. Therefore I happily intermix brands and put it down to the real life look. But if you want an opinion, I would say that FoW figures tend toward the chunkier person. Equipment is usually very crisp and clear as well as spot on for period and correctness. They have a style that shows good research and a high skill in the way the scultor presents his animation. True North tend to be slighter. The animation is much stiffer. However the equipment is very accurate, and shows a similar care in research as the above. The final presentation shows a little less skill on the part of the scultor, but they are none the less very nice. As to mixing them. Well I have and dont see a problem with it. But it really is very much up to individual taste. My units also have QRF, Quality Castings, Peter Pig and Old Glory scattered among them. When at table top viewing distance, usually a few feet, I dont think it matters a hoot if you have mixed brands together. But if you are a wargamer who worries about what others will think and say when they hold your prized paint jobs between finger and thumb, then the two brands do not mix.
For myself, I have long since stopped worrying about the comments, and just get on with enjoying the games! |
| donlowry | 26 Aug 2009 11:34 a.m. PST |
O.K. Thanks for the english lesson. Comparable, Measure and up. Is that better? Now do you think that you might help me with an answer? Not with that attitude. |
