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Personal logo Wyatt the Odd Supporting Member of TMP Fezian11 Jun 2008 11:24 a.m. PST

Back in the 1980's there was a company called "Heartbreaker Miniatures" that produced 28mm fantasy figures that went very well with Citadel and Marauder ranges. I seem to recall that it appeared about the same time that Marauder was set up by GW – and I thought at the time that it was another GW line or set up by ex-Citadel sculptors. Now, I see that it is carried by Ral Partha. Solegends has a broken link to its page on the company so its no help and TMP's directory just says that it got acquired by Target Games.

So, what's the story?


nycjadie11 Jun 2008 11:31 a.m. PST

Kev Adams sculpted much of that range, I believe. I think there's still a few packs at Compleat Strategist.

Rattrap111 Jun 2008 11:33 a.m. PST

What I know from my time working with the guys there:

Heartbreaker produced a bunch of different miniature lines that were compatible with GW's stuff. They had a lot of "sculptor's lines". Heartbreaker was acquired by/began licensing the Mutant Chronicles line. This morphed into the Warzone game to directly compete with GW. After Target went under, Excelsior tried to keep the products going (but none of the old lines).

In the mixed up world of rights, I have no idea who owns any of that stuff now since there have been so many owners and bakruptcies along the way.

Farstar11 Jun 2008 11:53 a.m. PST

While I'm not sure how the relationship started, I do know the later Heartbreaker blisters identify them as a brand name of Target Games. They were dragged under the waves by Target's collapse, and nothing of the Heartbreaker line has resurfaced.

PapaSync11 Jun 2008 11:56 a.m. PST

Heartbreaker --> Target --> Paradox then only licensed to Excelsior. When Excelsior couldn't keep it going they lost the license to Fanstasy Flight (the makers of the DOOM board game). Fantasy Flight has come out with a clickty/pre-paint 54mm type miniatures game loosly based on Mutant Chronicles. Prince August has since picked up any remaining hard stock from Excelsior and is selling whats left of the Warzone/Chronopia line that Target started and Excelsior tried to keep up. Both Warzone/Chronpia are still fan supported and still well loved by those who play it.

Monkeyborg Dirtside11 Jun 2008 12:13 p.m. PST

You can still get some of the Heartbreaker fantasy stuff via Ral Partha UK.

Spacelord11 Jun 2008 12:16 p.m. PST

The original Heartbreaker fantasy minis were sculpted by Kev Adams, Phil Lewis, Chaz Elliot and Tim Prow. Each sculptor had their own range. They were cast in lead, although towards the end we did get some pewter castings mixed in- the stuff listed on the Ral Partha Europe site is just the leftover stock from when we (as Gamecraft) were UK distributors. (that's why we don't have the full ranges, and varying stock levels of what we do have).

CmdrKiley11 Jun 2008 12:39 p.m. PST

If you have the Ultimate Warzone Rulebook by Excelsior Games, look up the fluff on Big Bob Watts in the Capitol Army List. You might find some interesting references to Heartbreaker and a former Target Employee.

Logopolis11 Jun 2008 4:17 p.m. PST

Here's a nice reference site for heartbreaker miniatures link

I still like them and pick them up when I find them.

Craig Grady11 Jun 2008 4:41 p.m. PST

You can order them in Europe from Ral Partha Europe based in the Liverpool in the UK. THey are on there online store here


Contact details here


maxpower11 Jun 2008 4:59 p.m. PST

Logopolis- Thanks for that link. I have been wanting to look at what they produced for a while now. I used to find scattered packs here and there and I always thought they were pretty cool.

Logopolis11 Jun 2008 5:28 p.m. PST

No problem, it's been very helpful for me in the past. I like the range a lot. Been painting them up to use in skirmish games.

Bjorn Seleukos12 Jun 2008 2:02 a.m. PST

I liked their Dragon Kin Elves and Chaos Warriors

jpattern212 Jun 2008 10:54 a.m. PST

Bjorn, I'm a big fan of the Dragon Kin Elves, too. I have 18 o so of each of the 4 poses; wish they'd done more poses, or at least some commanders, champions, standard bearers, and musicians. They don't look much like ayone else's Elves, even other elves by Chaz Elliott, so conversions aren't easy, either.

Pics: link link link link

Logopolis12 Jun 2008 1:41 p.m. PST

Dragon Kin elves are nice. I used the one in your last link to convert to a standard bearer, but yea the other command models are pretty hard to find something compatible.

blackscribe12 Jun 2008 9:11 p.m. PST

I'm still trying to find out how many poses of spearmen there were in the ratman spear army pack (Tim Prow sculpts). The other packs all had two poses as far as I know. Tim Prow can't remember and I only have one pose.

Logopolis12 Jun 2008 9:21 p.m. PST

Here's two poses link but not sure if they are Tim's sculpts

dsfrank14 Jun 2008 5:44 p.m. PST

Bob Watts who was one of the senior GW managers in the US, chose to leave GW when Bryan Ansel sold the company – Bob started Heartbreaker with an eye to being a strong competitor to Games Workshop – ultimately Heartbreaker was sold and Bob went on to other projects – Bob used many ex-GW sculptors and leveraged several of the business practices that made GW successful – which is one of the reasons Heartbreaker grew as quickly as it did

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