Uesugi Kenshin  | 09 Jun 2008 6:04 a.m. PST |
By "later", I mean to say 15th n 16th Century Armies, Any good books on these? |
| asa1066 | 09 Jun 2008 8:42 a.m. PST |
There is the Osprey Men-at-Arms Series 256 The Irish Wars 1485-1603. It has some good plates in it and a lot of the material is based on Derricke's The Image of Ireland which depectied events from Henry Sidneys second Viceroyalty (1575-78). The Irish waist ruffs, if that's what they are, look a little too much like tutus. David S. |
| Gwydion | 09 Jun 2008 10:42 a.m. PST |
Irish Battles: A Military History of Ireland by G.A. Hayes-McCoy, Appletree Press 1990, and Elizabeth's Irish Wars by Cyril Falls, Constable and Company 1996, are both good histories on the military scene in the period. Falls has few illustrations, and in black and white although they are contemporary. The most useful being (as above) The Image of Ireland. Hayes-McCoy offers a few more colour illustrations.
The Osprey book has one or two comments which, I hope, are accidentally repeated from earlier works, because they are not acceptable in the way they compare Irish culture to English ways.
Guy |
| reddrabs | 09 Jun 2008 12:47 p.m. PST |
There's the Foundry bok -wait until Christmas to get it. Gush is good but it seems that my copy is rare!!! |
| Lowtardog | 09 Jun 2008 1:11 p.m. PST |
The Heath Book is a good intro and you can pick it up cheap (the Foundry book) from Amazon. I would love a copy of the Gush book but as said getting a copy is hard and can be expensive. Elizabeth's Irish Wars by Cyril Falls, is a good read. |
 Bobgnar | 09 Jun 2008 1:58 p.m. PST |
Most of the text of the Gush book on Irish is here
link |
| Uesugi Kenshin | 09 Jun 2008 11:14 p.m. PST |
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| clibinarium | 10 Jun 2008 6:02 a.m. PST |
"The Osprey book has one or two comments which, I hope, are accidentally repeated from earlier works, because they are not acceptable in the way they compare Irish culture to English ways." What are these comments Gwydion? It's been a while since I've read the book. First Osprey I ever bought actually. |
| Oh Bugger | 10 Jun 2008 9:13 a.m. PST |
You might also try The Twilight Lords by Richard Berleth, Scots Mercenary Forces in Ireland by Hayes McCoy and A Military History of Ireland ed T Bartlett and Hiram Morgan. All of the posts above are good recomendations imho. Falls also did a biography of Mountjoy, Hiram Morgan one of Tyrone as did M. Kearney Walsh. I would be interested to know if there is any more recent scholarship on the Nine Years War. |
| Gwydion | 10 Jun 2008 12:50 p.m. PST |
Clibinarium, likewise a long time since I've read it, but I was thinking of things like:
'The original veneer of English feudal overlords who might have hoped to anglicise the native "wild Irish" had long since degenerated to become themselves "more Irish than the Irish"…'
which seems to suggest that to adopt the ways of the Irish was to embrace something less than, rather than simply different from, the English culture their families had begun with.
This may seem rather touchy but given the recent history of Irish/English relations it seemed somewhat insensitive. To be fair this rings a bell with me about something in Falls, which was written in an era less concerned with such nuances. |
| clibinarium | 21 Jun 2008 4:37 p.m. PST |
Fair point. sorry I didn't notice this answer until now. |
| Lowtardog | 29 Jun 2008 5:43 a.m. PST |
A nice but sadly looks like not updated for a while, re-enacters site link |
