"Are Tibetans Obscure?" Topic

Following on from a thread…whats the most obscure ancients campaign/battle/army you have gamed?

The Tibetans are obscured by the chinese bodyguards in blue tracksuits!

I thought the Nepalese were more obscure than the Tibetans. Not like I would have played either, though.

Griefbringer

What about Othahitians? Anyone ever gamed the wars of the Society Islands?

Obscure? This is wargaming – like most of what we actually game isn't obscure to the average person. How many people really know about the Carlist Wars, the Spanish Civil War, heck, even the Crimean War. Of course as an American, I am a bit jaded as clearly half of the people in this country can't even identify which country we "revolted from" to form our own country nor why we celebrate the 4th of July.

From a purely wargaming perspective – I don't know if I've ever gamed any "obscure" period, or army for that matter. Romans, Byzantines, Gauls, Huns, Mongols, Sassanids, crusades and their enemies (virtually every one of them except for the children's crusade which would be very anti-climactic), WWI, WWII, Franco-Prussian, Napoleonic, SYW, WAS, WSS, Revolutionary Wars, Ming Chinese, Han Chinese, etc. I guess I would need a better definition of "obscure" because if it is "obscure" there usually aren't figures for it, and if there aren't figures – I am generally not playing it.

Back in the Tang period the Tibetans had more of china than the chinese have of Tibet now. Pity it could'nt have stayed that way!

Jovian

I guess by obscure I mean stuff I havent heard of. :)

Tibetans won't be obscure for long! Stay tuned ….

I thought Burmese were obscure, and then along came the Khmer.
And the Khitan Liao.

Curteys has a small range of Tibetans, but they suffer from the "OMG what's wrong with their heads" syndrome.

How about 16-18th Century Central Asians? Montvert's Warriors of Eurasia has a few illustrations of armored riders with slung muskets.

I have Ian Heaths book on Central America, more Renaissance, obviously, but I love all those crazy guys with feathers.

Kalkadoon War. Now thats obscure. Though not to the Kalkadoons.

I think the inclusion of a list for Meroe in the Warmaster Ancients supplement, but not a decent later Arab list, was obscurantism at its finest – a nod to the DBM 'River K'u'ung Chinese 11th April 31bc – just after Lunchtime same day' lists – you know, the ones where they can have chariots as long as it's BEFORE 1pm as Uncle Ping borrowed it to go to the Dry Cleaners afer that.

Tibetans are oddly less obscure than they might be, as they had a flowering under WRG rules – I am told the combination of Cataphracts, elephants and Decent grunts made them a popular choice with Power-gamers for a while.

Pat

People tell me that Oscans work well too. All those auxilia.

Xianpi cowgirls.

I'm Chinese and I didn't even know about the Xianpi until I read their army list.

If I were to do four books of army lists I would be tempted to make some up too. :)

Elephants?

Oh, was that part of an Indian ally or something?

Last Sunday I was talking to the adolescents I youth-lead about the Olympic protests. They thought it was about a town or possibly a village in China beginnin with 'T' where the Chinese government was doing something they shouldn't.

So it seems modern Tibetans re obscure, let alone the ancient ones