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28mmMan Inactive Member06 Apr 2008 9:51 a.m. PST

Or any other game using toy cars for mayhem and status?

What are the choices of games out in the great beyond that pit vehicles against other vehicles; regardless of scale/size but in the end with the intent of using production toys to fill the gap?

Anyone out there got a working house game that fills the niche?

jbenton Inactive Member06 Apr 2008 10:28 a.m. PST

This paga has links to various games; there might be something that fits what you're looking for.


Top Gun Ace Inactive Member06 Apr 2008 10:33 a.m. PST

Looks like they would be of interest again, especially with the upcoming Speed Racer movie release.

Miniatures are available at Target now for your racing and battling pleasure.

Personal logo The Beast Rampant Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2008 11:02 a.m. PST

I tried to get my group into CW a few years back. They whined it was too complicated, and I got no takers. I said, fine, go back to your 'DOOM' and your 'Beverley Hill 90210' and your Pepsi Clear, you no good hoologans.

No love for the ambunaught.

Personal logo The Beast Rampant Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2008 11:05 a.m. PST

"Looks like they would be of interest again, especially with the upcoming Speed Racer movie release."

Don't tell Wizkids about that liscence, with all those NASCAR polystyrene card die-cutters lying around dathering dust. More teensy dice all around!

Qurchi Bashi06 Apr 2008 11:07 a.m. PST

My club played the old Steve Jackson Games Car Wars scaled up to Matchbox Cars size. As I recall the math worked out pretty well. Something like an inch for each little box in the original game grid, but you'd have to check that since its been years. There's a turning key from SJG whic we scaled up on a photocopier. We had fun kitbashing our cars by glueing guns and stuff on Matchbox models. 10mm figures might be about the right size for drivers too, although once again, you'd have to check that.

Phil Walling Inactive Member06 Apr 2008 11:26 a.m. PST

I love Car Wars… and have recently been getting my collection back via the wonders of Ebay..

Volstagg Vanir06 Apr 2008 12:01 p.m. PST

' Dark Future ' is available as a free download now (scroll down):
(GW's old and all but forgotten CarPunk game. But; Hey! Its Free!)

Personal logo Saginaw Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member06 Apr 2008 12:04 p.m. PST

If you want to play some 'Car Wars' scenarios in 25-28mm, there are some snazzy 1/60 scale vehicles available from a growing number of manufacturers which list them as "1:64". Check out the websites of Jada Toys, MotorMax, Malibu International, Ltd., and Maisto.

Smokey Roan Inactive Member06 Apr 2008 12:22 p.m. PST

"Crushing" looks promising (and easy to add on to other games to get car chases and drive bys)

Its free and seems well supported. (and check out those "Funky" miniatures.


mweaver Inactive Member06 Apr 2008 3:33 p.m. PST

I loved carwars back in college days. Don't know if anyone around here would be that interested in playing, though.

RudyNelson06 Apr 2008 4:41 p.m. PST

Car Wars was a great system in the 1970s and later. A similar hit location system showed up in BattleTech in the 1980s.

Easy to make home grown rules.

tima113 Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2008 5:38 p.m. PST

I found axles and alloys to be a little simpler than car wars. Here's a link to the download page:

Captain Apathy Inactive Member06 Apr 2008 6:08 p.m. PST

We played the hell out of Car Wars back in the day. We even had a tackle box full of MicroMachines converted for use with Car Wars. We also ran tournaments in South Carolina for several years. Good times.

chironex06 Apr 2008 7:35 p.m. PST

Axle Tribes is best played with 1/64 scale cars, but if you scale back the Imperial measurements to metric eg. 12" becomes 12cm, you could use N scale which makes it easier to get more vehicles in the same scale. I don't think it matters if they are US/Continental N or British/Japanese N, but you should pick one or the other unless you think the Gloria Super Six really was wider than a bus…
I asked the creators and they said it could be done theoretically but noone they know has.
I collect the 1/60 cars anyway as they are useful for any 28mm game but the biggest name games, but have only converted the 1/64 cars. It's bloody impossible to get any rigid vehicles in that scale, though, so you can't use hulks unless you go and scratch one like I keep thinking to do but never do. I did scratch a buggy.

The Sentient Bean Inactive Member06 Apr 2008 7:43 p.m. PST

Anyone have vehicle design rules for the latest edition of Car Wars?

They weren't offically released. Has anyone made a homebrew?

Personal logo Inari7 Supporting Member of TMP06 Apr 2008 8:38 p.m. PST

I have been playing CarWars for the last few months. The only problem is when you scale up to Matchbox cars you need alot more room.

Also I found the game takes a real long time to play when you have 5-6 players.

I a game can take over 4 hours to play.

I would love to see another quicker playing game come out someday.


28mmMan Inactive Member07 Apr 2008 5:18 p.m. PST

The last game I remember playing we linked 6 8' tables in a long row and had a race from heck with each player being able to set a hidden element; sniper, bomb, covered pit, tank trap, spike runs, etc.. Each player presented his/her hidden element to the ref before the game and the ref played out each hidden fun bit.

As you could choose your bit (from a long list) I went with my theme…White Line Zombie! Driving a converted GTO…I had a group of theme zealots…a group of 13 loonies made up like zombies with a stick of dynamite each, impact only no throwing…you hit them and boom!

deleted Inactive Member08 Apr 2008 4:04 a.m. PST

Several rules sets can be found at

Top Gun Ace Inactive Member08 Apr 2008 9:32 a.m. PST

Axles looks pretty good, since it is fairly simple.

Anyone have a quick reference sheet for Dark Future?

Jape77 Inactive Member08 Aug 2008 8:49 p.m. PST

You might want to check out "Speed Rally," the game we're rolling out this month. It is specifically designed for "using toy cars for mayhem and status" -- as outlandish vehicles outfitted with buzz saws, booster jacks and machine guns careen around obstacle-filled tracks or over dangerous terrain.

Whether you just want to race hot wheels vs matchbox, have a cross-country death race, or, for example, have Speed Racer face off against the Dukes of Hazzard, Speed Rally gives you the tools and rules you need.

Ted Arlauskas Inactive Member10 Aug 2008 6:18 a.m. PST

Hey, Jape77. Speed Rally looks pretty neat. I'll probably pick up a copy when you start selling the PDF. Make sure to announce it here on TMP – and you might as well put up a page for it at BoardGameGeek too.

IronMike11 Aug 2008 5:53 a.m. PST

I'm lookin' at Speed Rally, and thinkin' that I like it! It seems to combine some of the best mechanics of the woefully underrated DARK FUTURE with a stedfast refusal to take itself seriously: I mean honestly, you wrote rules that let me use my 'tooned' hot wheels! That's worth the price of admission alone!

Jape77 Inactive Member11 Aug 2008 6:10 p.m. PST

IronMike -- yeah, we wanted to design a good, fun beer & pretzel race game. If I can quote my own intro: Speed Rally was inspired by the extreme and often crazy races you've seen in dozens of movies, TV shows and Saturday morning cartoons. You know the kind: the ones with gadget-filled cars, colorful characters and over-the-top villains who will stop at nothing to win"

Let the 'Mwa-ha-ha-ha-ing' begin!

(And yes, an announcement is soon coming)

Detailed Casting Products Inactive Member12 Aug 2008 10:50 a.m. PST

Guys, don't forget about the new "Death Race" movie for your Car Wars inspiration. wink

Tommiatkins Inactive Member15 Aug 2008 10:34 a.m. PST

Carnage, my mad-max with custard pies and ruddy big spikes uses matchbox or corgi cars scratchbuilt.
Since I dont really sell em online anymore (too much of a niche area) if peeps pm or email me I can send em a copy for the price of a beer.

Jape77 Inactive Member01 Sep 2008 6:54 p.m. PST

You can now order the full-color PDF of the SPEED RALLY from (We also have a few copies left of the "Pace Car Edition" of the rulebook which was printed for Historicon this summer, if you prefer a hardcopy.)

In addition, we have free downloads of track segments you can print out on your home printer, car & driver sheets and wallpaper. In the future we will be offering additional tracks & an expansion set with additional vehicles and devices.

Go Speed Rally Go!

Warzoned Inactive Member01 Sep 2008 7:58 p.m. PST

Aberrant games is releasing a new 20mm scale game with cars – check out their site.


Warzoned Inactive Member01 Sep 2008 10:53 p.m. PST

It's called Warlands :)

deleted Inactive Member05 Sep 2008 8:36 a.m. PST

Fantasy Flight brought out a small game called "Wreckage". My son and I enjoyed it, and it can be purchased cheaply, even off eBay.

chironex19 Oct 2008 3:06 a.m. PST

I just offered some copies of free rules around at a local games club today, but noone wanted any. It's like GW-pomposity with them. Car Wars or Dark Future it is, else noone will play with me. The simplicity thing went straight out the window as Axle Tribes, Axles and Alloys, Road Warriors and even Road Rage V8 are TOO simple for them.

Can't help but feel I have wasted my whole life and every cent I ever spent on gaming. And travelling to gaming. I could have paid my next internet bill on the amount I spent on taxis the last two Sundays.
Maybe I'll try the other club.

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