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abdul666lw05 Feb 2008 1:49 a.m. PST

(°- Xposted on the VSF & SF boards since several regular posters there showed an interest in fictitious Lace Wars campaigns, at least if ‘spiced' with Sci-Fi elements: perfectly endvisageable here if kept «Oversky»: link ; TMP link , TMP link .
°- Xposted on the Pirates board since some postersare interested in conflicts in the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbeanat a later date, while as in History conflicts in Mythical Europe are echoed in the New World: link . And also because the situation there may be quite different from what ‘we know' (traditionalist Spanish troops still in morion by the mid-18th C., e.g.), and piracy may still be rampant: link )

Re. A (fictitious) Lace Wars *battle report* just posted on his *blog* by a SOLO wargamer: link

After the successful ‘premiere' «battle by proxy» TMP link of the ‘Emperor vs Elector' TMP link group emperor-elector.blogspot.com the ‘battle of Tippelbruder' was planned. Owing to the hard realities of ‘The Real World™' it was fought only on jan. 27: link


This time, a SOLO wargamer acting as a neutral ‘proxy' played (using of course his own minis and favorite rules) the battle following the map movements of no less than 8 different forces. The interesting point is that the ‘proxy' lives in Arkansas, while the army of a fictitious 18th C. country ‘from British Columbia' stagonia.blogspot.com challenged the converged contingents sent by 7 gamers link scattered across the whole North America and Great Britain.
Of course PBM, then PbeM wargame campaign exist for decades. BUT the originality here is that the EvE group don't bother with distances, duration of travels and logistics: map movements are just *excuses* for such ‘battles by proxy', adding enjoyable exchanges between members of that congenial, convivial and collegial bunch.


Such ‘proxy battles' are gratifying both for the Solo wargamers who are fully part of a common effort, link and for the ‘proxied' players who are allow to campaign together while they could never, materially, meet across a table-top. Thus the members of ‘EvE' are currently ‘stirring the pot' in their campaign to multiply the opportunites for such games in 2008:
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Then this group of Imagi-Nation rulers scattered up to tens thousands of miles apart, will enjoy far more than just the possibility to exchange local news and jolly diplomatic missives. Before the instauration of such ‘battles by proxy' the Mythical Europe was divided in as many *independant* theatres of operations as many ‘local groups': Gallia vs Hesse-Seewald (Bill Protz vs Jim Purky, to mention names notunknown here), the ‘Mieczyslaw – Norden – Saxe-Beartsein triangle'… and, chiefly, as many warring pairs of Imagi-Nations as there are solo gamers in the group. With the ‘proxied battles', all can potentially interfere / interact – providing to all a gratifying feeling of ‘sharing' and ‘belonging'.

BTW, with reference to my posts on this board: TMP link
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I have now on my blog link
50+ working links to blogs or sites devoted to fictitious Lace Wars Imagi-Nation(s), and 7 more are richely and –regularly illustrated in the messages, Files and Photos folders of the Old School Wargaming link
and SocDaisy link Yahoo groups.
If you know of a currently active Lace Wars fictitious wargaming Country not repertoried on my listing, please carry forward the info!

Best,
Jean-Louis
Aka Louys of Monte-Cristo, that crazy ruler of a Monaco-like micro-statelet who dreams of sending aether-propelled dirigibles to Mars link , perhaps in the hope of bringing back Martian Askaris and Sepoys to reinforce his skeletal military forces link .

abdul666lw18 Feb 2008 11:00 a.m. PST

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abdul666lw18 Feb 2008 11:01 a.m. PST

Tippelbruder: the full After Action Bulletin is now on-line :
The battle unfolds along 4 successive posts :
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Fully illustrated battle report to follow; 25 photos already posted on the Koenig-Krieg group: link

Battle of Unter-Schweingau: the 3rd EvE ‘battle by proxy' fought:
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The 4th ‘proxied' battle Battle the in Duchy of Pfalz-Kognat-Obersayn is imminent:
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A 44th contributor just joined the ‘Emperor vs Elector' diplomatic and wargaming collective blog
emperor-elector.blogspot.com . Together its members ‘rule' 60+ Lace Wars Imagi-Nations: most are solo wargamers. Some created a fictitious country to add a personal note to their historical armies (Austria vs Prussia, Russia vs Turkey…), others at first designed their own army, its background country and are now building ‘the opposition'; most created a pair of embattled nations from the start, and are adding satellite mini-statelets or a ‘third party'.
Two people, to fully enjoy the ‘role playing' of a Country ruler, devoted an ‘individualized' blog to eavh of their warring Imagi-Nations.
Many members of the ‘EvE' group joigned to break their isolation: playing battles as ‘proxies' offers them a higher level of integration.

The name of the blog refers to the fictitious bitter enemies in P. Young's ‘Charge! Or how to play Wargames' book; his Electorate was also mentioned in the other ‘founding book' of fictitious Lace Wargaming, C. Grant's ‘The Wargame':
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abdul666lw21 Feb 2008 1:11 a.m. PST

The photos of the defense of Tippelbruder are now publicly accessible on the solo 'proxy'player's blog:
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A detailed and fully illustrated report of the 3rd 'EvE' battle by proxy, that of Unter-Schweingau, is now on-line:
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Enjoy!

abdul666lw24 Jun 2010 7:06 a.m. PST

'Battles by proxies' are among the enjoyable interactions between members of the friendly 'Emperor vs Elector' group, the League of Lace Wars Imagi-Nations TMP link
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They were instituted at first when two members rule countries with a common border on the campaign map, but live thousands of miles apart in the real world: since they cannot meet across a tabletop, their encounter is played by a neutral third party.
But such 'battles by proxies' can also be precious in other circumstances:
-when a solo gamer is unsure of his fairness / unprejudiced approach in a a decisive battle,
-when a player lacks models (gunboats, e.g.) needed for a single encounter of exceptional nature,
-when health problems prevent a gamer to play for some time, so putting the whole, multi-player campaign to the halt.

Thus in this june 2010 four 'battles by proxies' are fought in the 'EvE' cadre:
-'Littlejohn' of Lead Gardens fought the Dunkeldorf-Pfühl raid on the basis of the Hetzenberger riverine flotilla: link a magnificient after action report in 5 parts:
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Gallia fights in the help of Frankzonia:
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Murdock and his Marauders fought another 'proxy' Frankzonian battle:
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and a third 'Frankzonian proxy' is planned.

These 'battles by proxies' are not only convenient for the 'proxied', but provide the 'proxies' players an enjoyable opportunity to play an unexpected battle, and give all of us a sense of 'belonging' to the same brotherhood.

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