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The Gray Ghost09 Jan 2008 4:24 p.m. PST

How many names do You know for guard units during the 18th century, I'm mostly interested in german ones but would like to here any. I'm begining to look at figures for My ficticious countries elite troops.

andygamer09 Jan 2008 9:03 p.m. PST

In Italian it's Guardie del Corpo di Sua Maestà for His Majesty's Life Guards of the mounted variety.

In Spanish the full title was Compañìas de Reales Guardias de Corps. And the Spanish also had la Compañìa de Granaderos a Caballo del Rey [the Company of the King's Horse Grenadiers]. The foot guards were the Spanish and the Walloon Guards just like France's French and Swiss Guards.

The French Maison du Roi had a bunch of different palace and battlefield guard regiments.

For palace guards there were the Gardes de la Manche; les Gardes Ecossais; les Cent-Suisses; les Gardes de la Porte; and les Gardes de la Prévôté.

For battlefield use mounted units included the Gardes du Corps companies; the Gendarmes de la Garde; the Chevau-légers de la Garde (who were actually heavy cavalry); la Gendarmerie de France; and les Mousquetaires de la Garde that had a Compagnie Gris mounted on grey horses and a Compagnie Noir mounted on black horses.

andygamer09 Jan 2008 9:20 p.m. PST

German titles for foot units include Leibgrenadier-Garde for an all-grenadier unit, or just Grenadier-Garde; and Garde zu Fuß for the tricorne-wearing Foot Guard.

RegimentLeRoideAngleterre10 Jan 2008 4:47 a.m. PST

France also had a company of Grenadiers à Cheval. Picktroops who cleared the way for the Gardes du Corps when mounted and used during seige's when dismounted.

RegimentLeRoideAngleterre10 Jan 2008 4:50 a.m. PST

England had various troops of Horse Guards and Horse Grenadier Guards. Also another regiment titled – The Royal Regiment of Horse, or Royal Horse Guards (The Oxford Blues)

For Foot
1st Regiment of Foot Guards
Coldstream Regiment of Foot Guards
Scots, or 3rd Regiment of Foot Guards

RegimentLeRoideAngleterre10 Jan 2008 4:53 a.m. PST

Regiment Le Roi de Angleterre was the French title given to James II guard cavalry while exile in France, also called Sarsifield Horse.

abdul666lw10 Jan 2008 11:34 a.m. PST

@ ‘Grey Ghost':
"for My ficticious countries elite troops."
Please see comment on the "Munchausian Warfare" thread
TMP link

@ "andygamer" – so present on the TMP messages boards and so knowledgeable, and proudly appearing as a Lace Wars Marshall or Soldier-King on your TMP member profile…
are you *sure* you don't have a blog or website, may be under another 'pen name' [somehing like "McD…", perhaps]?
For me I warmly wish you *do* have one…

What about joining the SOCDAISY
link
or Old_School_Wargaming
link
Yahoo group(s)?
(same suggestion to all readers with interesting conversions -de Saxe's "daydreamed" Legion, e.g.- or 'original' ideas, creations, models… )


Best regards,
Jean-Louis
aka Louys of Monte-Cristo
link

Musketier10 Jan 2008 2:17 p.m. PST

In German, complementing the above,for Horse:
Leibgarde zu Pferd, Leibregiment zu Pferd (could also be the senior non-guard cavalry regiment), Trabanten-Leibgarde, Leibtrabanten (also spelled Drabant), Grands Mousquetaires (Brandenburg), Leib-Carabiniers (Saxony), Adels- or Adelige Garde (Austria)

for Foot:
Erste, Zweite Garde etc. (Hesse-Cassel had four at one point), Lausitzer Garde (Saxony) or any other reference to ethnic or regional origin, Arcieren-Garde (Austria, Bavaria) also spelled Hartschiere (from Engl. archer), Schweizergarde (Brandenburg, Saxony). – Archers and Swiss tended to have more of a palace guard role -

seneffe10 Jan 2008 2:30 p.m. PST

Grenadiere zu Pferde (Hanover 1742-63), a short lived but striking unit; and apart from from the English units, probably the best mounted of any troops mentioned so far. The Hanoverians partnered them with an equally splendidly mounted Garde du Corps Company.

Also Garde te Voet, Garde te Paarde (Dutch)

Musketier10 Jan 2008 2:31 p.m. PST

On France's Maison du Roy, note that the gardes de la manche were drawn for certain functions from the gardes écossais, who in turn constituted the first company of the gardes du corps and as such *would* occasionally escort the king on campaign. There were thus only five mounted guard units: gardes du corps, gendarmes, chevau-légers, mousquetaires and grenadiers à cheval. The gendarmerie de France had precedence over the line cavalry, but was not part of the royal household.

The Gray Ghost10 Jan 2008 3:12 p.m. PST

What about joining the SOCDAISY

I already belong to it.

andygamer10 Jan 2008 4:38 p.m. PST

Thank you for the compliment, Jean Louis. I do not have a blog, but am thinking about starting an Imagi-nation one with my 25mm WSS figures once I get some more figures painted.

Regarding the Yahoo! groups, I do not use the big battalions of the Old School Wargamers type; but perhaps I will consider the Society of Daisy although I think when I was a member some years ago, most of the posters were using Ancients or Science Fiction so it didn't appeal to me much. (Although maybe I'm confusing it with another group related to fictional-setting wargaming.)

abdul666lw11 Jan 2008 4:07 a.m. PST

@ The Gray Ghost:
glad to learn that!
Then, what about opening a Photos Album to post photos of your models, units and battles, and a Folder in the 'Files' to post the background of your campaign(s), description of your Imagi-Nations, modelling hints, battle reports…? Of course, the 'text' part can be posted before you have a digital camera for the 'pics' part…


@ andygamer:
the OSW group is in no way restricted to 'Big Batttalions' gamers, even if among the Lace Wars members they are those more often posting there. Bill Protz repeatedly underlined that BAR can be used with units ofany size – neither is BAR the 'semi-official' 18thC. rules set of the group. All contributors to the 'Emperor vs Elector' group are OSW members, and most use other rules -e.g. 'Bluebear Jeff' and the Murdock group use Jeff's own rules.
As for SOCDAISY the eras dealed with as diverse, and the currently most debated varies with time, but 'Otto' himself has a whole fictitious 18th C. continent; most 'EvE' members also appear on the SOD list. Additionally you'll find there the Levitzer Rabbinate and the Electorate of Ober-Bindlestiff, amusing Lace Wars Imagi-Nations with 'odd' mores & oversea colonies…
While the group is announced as "A group of miniature wargamers dedicated to a whimsical, farcical and fun dimension to the hobby", they actually treat 'serious matters lightly and light matters seriously'. True, discussions sometimes drift 'off-topic" -to compaisons of the respective charms & tastes of Klingon and Vulcan women, e.g.- but are generally quite enjoyable. Wargame-wise, while 'Otto' field Mohawks 'counting as' Pandours in the (pink-dressed) army of Princess Trixie of Saxe-Burlap und Schleswig-Beerstein, he insists on 'seriousness' and 'historical realism' in tabletop rules as the most hardboiled 'historical' wargamer.

->> "I am thinking about starting an Imagi-nation blog with my 25mm WSS figures once I get some more figures painted.": feverishly wishing & hoping you'll do it!


'Brothers' with kindred minds to mine (in different, complementary ways), who of you two will give me the opportunity to add a 53rd 'Fict' link on my blog?

Warm thanks for bothering to kindly reply to my message!
Best regards & wishes,
Jean-Louis

Dunfalach11 Jan 2008 7:47 a.m. PST

Remember also that basic names can sometimes be extended with references to towns or people. For my Hesse-Engelburg troops, I have the Garde du Corps Prinzessin Gertrude, a mixed body of horse and foot financed by the daughter of the rulers to suit her taste, and attired in pink, gray, and violet colors. One can add variously named units for multiple family members' patronages.

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