| g vanier | 06 Nov 2007 12:30 p.m. PST |
i need help for the clothe of bashi bazouk thanks for your help best regard |
 John the OFM  | 06 Nov 2007 12:41 p.m. PST |
The Virtual Armchair General's "Sudan Sourcebook" has a plate or two with their "uniform", but I don't remember the actual colors. I saw it in a copy I got for a friend. However, years ago, I painted some Ral Partha Bashi Bazouks with a light blue coat with yellow and gold/yellow braid, and red pantaloons.
The turban had a red fez and white cloth. I no longer have the source I used for them, but I believe it was an article in "Savage and Soldier". This:
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will give you a few examples of more irregularly "uniformed" guys. |
| airraid | 06 Nov 2007 1:24 p.m. PST |
I'm assuming the Perrys will have these out RSN. |
| Doc Ord | 06 Nov 2007 1:42 p.m. PST |
They wore a sort of zouave uniform but units would not be uniform-each man wore whatever suited him. Jackets would be red,blue, green, tan or brown with various color braid. Trousers were baggy & would be white or some other light color. Red & yellow boots were popular. Fezzes would be red-often with a white turban. |
| adub74 | 06 Nov 2007 2:00 p.m. PST |
Can someone explain to me what a bashi bazouk? I'm sure I could look it up on the internet but I'll give you guys first crack at an explanation since I saw it first. |
| Plynkes | 06 Nov 2007 2:09 p.m. PST |
Ottoman irregular soldiers, usually paid in loot. So irregular as to almost not count as soldiers. Could be cavalry or infantry, I believe, but wargamers usually mean cavalry when they use the phrase. "Rabble" or "Bandits" are good alternative names for them. Also my favourite Haddockism, other than perhaps Ostrogoths! or Coelacanths! |
| Pentaro | 06 Nov 2007 2:56 p.m. PST |
Don't forget to sculpt a few severed ears:
link Also my favourite Haddockism I think "Carnival Mussolini" is better, but probably the translations vary a lot. |
| Plynkes | 06 Nov 2007 3:06 p.m. PST |
I don't think "Carnival Mussolini!" ever made it into the English editions. I certainly don't remember it. The nearest we got was "Fancy-dress fascist!" That's a real shame. It is a very good one, possibly the best ever. That scene you linked to reminds me of Daniel, Peachy and the Afghan tribesmen. |
| Frederick | 07 Nov 2007 5:45 a.m. PST |
As noted by John and Doc Ord, you have a lot of leeway with irregulars like Bashi Bazouks. I have a few for Russo-Turkish war – mostly blue or brown short jackets with red or white pants, wearing a red fez |
 The Virtual Armchair General  | 07 Nov 2007 9:30 a.m. PST |
As our revered OFM mentioned, there are several full color uniform plates of a variety of Bashi's in the MWSB, with more details in the chapter covering them. Written by acknowledged expert, Doug Johnson, this was the seminal article which appeared over 20 years ago in "Savage And Soldier." The single issue with that article is available from Bob Burke (the S&S Archivist), as well as in the MWSB. Bashi Bazouks! Gotta love 'em! TVAG |
| rdjktjrfdj | 07 Nov 2007 12:41 p.m. PST |
These are Serbs, and from some time earlier, but can give you a clue of the oriental garb:
picture
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On the one above are even some Turks
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picture
also, look at the romanticist paintings. Delacroix, The slaughter at Chios (if that is how it is translated into English) |
| John the OFM | 07 Nov 2007 5:54 p.m. PST |
If anyone is interested, I have used both Ral Partha, and RSM's SYW Ottoman Turk "Balkan Auxiliaries".
Castaway Arts also make them.
Old Glory have Balkan Auxiliaries.
Perry will probably have some soon, since it looks like they wish to do the Sudan completely. |
| Plynkes | 08 Nov 2007 1:37 a.m. PST |
"Perry will probably have some soon, since it looks like they wish to do the Sudan completely." Hardly. Some 1890s Mahdists would be nice (you could use those for Darfur during the Great War, too), but I ain't holding my breath. I don't think they have any plans for anything other than 1883-85, do they? |
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