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Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP08 Oct 2007 12:40 p.m. PST

Over the past few years as I have been building up my inter-war armies I have gotten various artillery pieces, some second hand and some new. I have managed to lose the identification info for the following pieces. I would like to know the company that makes the gun and what nationality/size it is. Thanks much
Gun 1
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un 2
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Gun 3
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Gun 5
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Gun 6
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Gun 7
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Gun 8
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Gun 9
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Gun 10
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Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP08 Oct 2007 12:50 p.m. PST

Maybe 5 and 10 are the same item?

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP08 Oct 2007 12:51 p.m. PST

And these are 25mm or 15mm?

Jim

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP08 Oct 2007 12:53 p.m. PST

All 25mm, thanks for the reminder.

jdginaz08 Oct 2007 1:09 p.m. PST

#7 appears to be a French M1897 75mm Cun

jdg

Personal logo chicklewis Supporting Member of TMP08 Oct 2007 1:13 p.m. PST

Gun #1 is an American model about 1903, about 75mm. I think Frontier or the other company in El Paso made that one.

Gun #2 is a howitzer which I think it is still available on the Reviresco pages, including its identity.

Yah, #7 is SUPPOSED to be a French 75

Doc Ord08 Oct 2007 3:22 p.m. PST

#2 is the Revirico 4.5" British howitzer, #3 is the Copplestone Schneider, #4 may be a Russian 76.5-Battle Honors?, #7 might be a Schneider 155 howitzer & #10-a 13 pdr.??

troopwo Supporting Member of TMP08 Oct 2007 4:28 p.m. PST

#2 is the Riveresco 4.5" British howitzer. Right on that one Doc.

troopwo Supporting Member of TMP08 Oct 2007 4:29 p.m. PST

#9 is the Krupp Gun by Cannonfodder.

troopwo Supporting Member of TMP08 Oct 2007 4:35 p.m. PST

#1 and 7 may be by Monday Knight?

I am tempted to say #10 might be either Outpost or Askari 75mm.

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP08 Oct 2007 6:10 p.m. PST

Here are the answers so far. By the way, are both Guns from Copplestone -Russian and Chinese – the same?

Gun 1 American model about 1903, about 75mm. I think Frontier or the other company in El Paso made that one. Chick Lewis
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Gun 2 a howitzer which I think it is still available on the Reviresco pages, including its identity. Chick 3.5 Brit Howizer say both Doc Ord and troopwo, Reviresco
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Gun 3 Doc Ord says Copplestone Schneider.
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Gun 5 may be a Russian 76.5-Battle Honors Doc Ord
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Gun 6 No takers yet?
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Gun 7 appears to be a French M1897 75mm Gun – jdginaz, seconded by Chick
but might be a Schneider 155 howitzer, Doc Ord
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Gun 8 No suggestions, I want to give that to my Naval Landing Crew. Would it pass for say a 37mm, like on the Sand Pebbles, on a carriage.
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Gun 9 Krupp Gun by Cannonfodder. troopwo
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Gun 10 a 13 pdr?? Doc Ord, but troopwo says, might be either Outpost or Askari 75mm.
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Martin Rapier09 Oct 2007 1:38 a.m. PST

Gun 6 is a Krupps 77mm, albeit rather a crude one.

Personal logo chicklewis Supporting Member of TMP09 Oct 2007 7:52 a.m. PST

"the other company in El Paso" was Pass of the North. Came to me in a dream last night.

Doc Ord09 Oct 2007 8:12 a.m. PST

I mixed up the numbers -#7 is a French 75 & #8 looks like a Schneider 155 mm howitzer,and I agree with Martin that #6 is a German 77.

Doc Ord09 Oct 2007 8:16 a.m. PST

If #8 is really small then it might be the howitzer that replaced the screw gun-3.7"? I know that Battle Honors makes one with Indian crew.

Carlos Marighela 211 Oct 2007 5:24 p.m. PST

#1 If it is meant to be the American M1902 3" gun (Erhardt 75mm licenced copy) then it's sadly incorrect in shape, the original had a solid trail. It might be an attempt at the home grown M1917 but that's a very bizarre choice.

#2 Is indeed the Reviresco version QF 4.5 " Howitzer Mk 1. They are the only people who make one in 25

#3 is the Copplestone "Chinese Field Gun", whether it's a Schneider of some description I'm not sure but I can't recall having seen one wuite like it.

# 5 is definitely a Putilov M1902 76.2 mm Field gun. It's certainly a Putilov but the calibre is 7.62 cm and I can't tell whether it's Copplestone or BH from photo. Given it seems to have too many spokes to the wheels it may well be the BH version.

#6 Is a Krupp 77mm, maker unknown, evry man and his dog makes one.

#7 Is clearly an M1897 75mm with the barrel glued back at what looks like full recoil.

# 8 is just bloody awful. I likewise supect it's someone's half-arsed attempt at a French 75mm

#9 Is definitely the Cannonfodder generic Krupp. Withe some suitable cutting of barrels and trail and a replacement shield it converts nicely into a range of useful items.

#10 is clearly another iteration of the Putilov M1902 7.62cm field piece. Look closely at the trail design and the shpe of the recuperator at the front. Nothing like a 13pdr.

For the record the 3.7" Howitzer replaced various marks of "screw gun" principally the 2.75 " version. The model looks like neither.

BlackWidowPilot Fezian11 Oct 2007 6:53 p.m. PST

Gun 8 is no Schneider 155mm Obusier by any stretch. Too small a bore, too long a barrel, too wimpy a trail.

Gun 7 is hands down a Puteaux M1897 '75.

Reviresco still makes the British 4.5 inch howitzer.

Reviresco also makes a Krupp mountain gun as well in the same scale.

Hope all this helps!

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express
metal-express.net

BlackWidowPilot Fezian11 Oct 2007 7:02 p.m. PST

Here's very good rendering of the 155mm Schneider:

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Here's a well rendered French 105mm M1903 Scneider:

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Skoda 100mm howitzer for comparison purposes:

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Japanese 105mm field gun:

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Skytrex french '75:

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Hope this will help! I'm still holding out for a decent Russian 76.2mm Putilov gun in 1/72 scale…. evil grin

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express
metal-express.net

troopwo Supporting Member of TMP22 Oct 2025 3:05 p.m. PST

Thread necromancy time here.

Been looking hard at #8 again.
I think it is an attempt at a Schender-Danglis 75mm mountain gun used by Greece in the Balkan Wars and WW1. The same one that the Russians built for the great war as their regimental gun. I think even the Italians used t as a landing gun for the navy.

I am guessing it is based on an Irregular Russian 76mm m02 and m02/30 field guns but in 15-29mm scale. Only the shield is upside down and a bit of more brrel/pipe. Either that or possibly scratch built.

Now that I want to find this piece, it has me more intrigued.

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