The Gray Ghost | 19 Jul 2007 9:13 a.m. PST |
Has anyone ever gamed this that could give Me some pointers. |
Der Alte Fritz | 19 Jul 2007 9:35 a.m. PST |
Could you be a little more specific in what you are talking about and what you are seeking? There was a French film (was it The Brotherhood?) that took place in the 18th century. I recall that it involved werewolves or some similar type of monster. The hero had a sidekick from Asia who was a martial arts expert, as I recall. Lots of nice costumes and tricorn hats. I suppose that werewolves and vampires and headless horsemen would do the trick. Look at some of the new Blue Moon figures from Old Glory. that should provide you with some inspiration. |
jpattern2 | 19 Jul 2007 9:40 a.m. PST |
Do you mean 18thC (1700s) or 19thC (1800s)? Because there's not a whole lot of sci-fi set in the 1700s. |
(Blank Name) | 19 Jul 2007 10:01 a.m. PST |
Brotherhood of the Wolf(ves). No werewolves, just fairly feral group of minions for a covert society of Rich folk. The martial arts sidekick was an Iroqois Indian (might not be the correct tribe) from New France. The was a lion (I believe) in a suit of armor (sort of). |
Austin Rob | 19 Jul 2007 10:09 a.m. PST |
Baron von Munschhausen (sic?) seem sort of the closest to 18th c. science fiction. Don't know of any games related to is, however. Fantasy or Horror seem more appropriate for 18th c. than Science Fictio. Rob |
Der Alte Fritz | 19 Jul 2007 10:13 a.m. PST |
I've often thought that it would be fun to make some Montgolfier hot air balloons and incorporate them into a game in some manner. Or maybe someone could unearth the schematics for Leonardo de Vinci's war machines and build them in the 18th century. |
cloudcaptain | 19 Jul 2007 10:25 a.m. PST |
Maybe along the lines of Treasure Planet
.pirates in space? |
bogdanwaz | 19 Jul 2007 10:27 a.m. PST |
I once ran a Sci-Fi sort of campaign set around the 1682 Siege of Vienna. I used the GASLIGHT rules and had things like Sky Galleons, clockwork automotons, and lots of rockets. The back story lifted a lot of ideas from the Newton's Cannon series, with the technology heavily based in alchemy. There are some pictures from it posted on the GASLIGHT Yahoo Group. |
John the OFM | 19 Jul 2007 10:43 a.m. PST |
Mister Franklin and his Leyden Jars have possibilities also. |
The Gray Ghost | 19 Jul 2007 10:53 a.m. PST |
>Or maybe someone could unearth the schematics for Leonardo >de Vinci's war machines and build them in the 18th century. >technology heavily based in alchemy That's what I'm looking for. |
The Gray Ghost | 19 Jul 2007 10:54 a.m. PST |
>There are some pictures from it posted on the GASLIGHT >Yahoo Group. the Rules or Photos Group |
bogdanwaz | 19 Jul 2007 12:05 p.m. PST |
The Rules Group, link There are pictures in the Photos section and a write-up with game stats in the Files section, both in files titled "Age of Reason" |
The Gray Ghost | 19 Jul 2007 12:35 p.m. PST |
Found them, Cool pictures, What did You make the steam wagons out of? |
Black Cavalier | 19 Jul 2007 1:17 p.m. PST |
Instead of so much "science" fiction, it might be more "fantastical" fiction. Magic replacing pure science. Anubis Gates by Tim Powers I think had some settings in the 1700s. That might give you some ideas. Also check out his On Stranger Tides about magic & pirates. (I thought there was a TMP post about it recently, but I can't find it.) |
The Gray Ghost | 19 Jul 2007 1:18 p.m. PST |
I'm already working on converting one of My Weapons and Warriors pirateships into a flying one. |
bogdanwaz | 19 Jul 2007 1:49 p.m. PST |
The steam wagons are only slightly modified model kits. One is of Stevenson's Rocket and the other is another early locomotive. I think they were 1/24 scale or something like that but there really isn't all that much on the kits that would identify the scale is supposed to be. The large spheres on the warships are just the cardboard craft balls that you can pick up at Michael's for a buck each or so. I based them on some of the drawings of the proposed airships of the 17th century Jesuit, Lana-Terzi. Here's a website on Terzi followed by some more on 17th and 18th century "sci-fi" link link link |
Zagloba | 19 Jul 2007 1:54 p.m. PST |
I've been toying with this idea ever since I read Stephenson's "System of the World" trilogy. I've been picturing something like the Leonardo game , but with the steam tanks being much more baroque. I also think there's room for monsters- I had pictured some of the countries as being 'technical' and some as being 'fantastical' i.e. British steam tanks vs. Russian trolls. Rich |
The Gray Ghost | 19 Jul 2007 2:43 p.m. PST |
Mine's going to have everything from monsters and vampires to (now) flying sailing ships and clockwork golems, if I can find some. And I hope to do everything from skirmishes to battles. |
Supercilius Maximus | 19 Jul 2007 3:53 p.m. PST |
The 18th Century saw the first use of a submarine (Fulton's "Turtle") in an attack on the British fleet in NYC harbour in 1776. I would have thought that was a good starting point for sci-fi evolution. |
The Gray Ghost | 19 Jul 2007 3:59 p.m. PST |
Well I've made a lifeboat from a Weapons and Warriors pirateships (the small one ) with a |
The Gray Ghost | 19 Jul 2007 4:03 p.m. PST |
Well I've made a lifeboat from a Weapons and Warriors pirateships (the small one ) with a polyfoam ball as the gasbag, held in place by four wires. It's powered by an alchemical engine, which is a xmas lamppost snaped in half and a round bead, pot, placed between the base and lamp. It holds about three figures. |
Der Alte Fritz | 19 Jul 2007 4:46 p.m. PST |
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andygamer | 19 Jul 2007 5:51 p.m. PST |
AWI. Alien Wombats Invade. (Although some prefer calling it the Alien Raids of Wombats.) |
John the OFM | 19 Jul 2007 5:52 p.m. PST |
My "On strnger Tides" review: TMP link Fritz, a Leyden Jar is a capacitor, made from a glass jar wrapped in foil. It was charged with a static generator (rubbing a cat?), and could store quite a healthy jolt. Ben Franklin experimented with them a lot, and his research led to his famous kite. Ben also invented the glass harmonium. Did you ever wet a finger and rub the rim of a crystal glass and hear the harmonic hum? Mozart actually wrote music for it. But think of the possibilities of the "harmonics of the heavenly spheres", and go wild with itw weapons possibilities. Remember the #1 tenet of VSF: "That which has not been disproven, works." At least, it's MY tenet. Perpetual motion machines were all the rage, too. Think of the chess playing automotons also. |
John the OFM | 19 Jul 2007 5:53 p.m. PST |
That's "On Stranger Tides"
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trooper153 | 19 Jul 2007 6:06 p.m. PST |
In "Brotherhood of the Wolf" Marc Decascos played an Native American that somehow knew martial arts. He now plays The Chairman on "Iron Chef America," a show on The Food Network. I don't know if that's moving up a career ladder or not. 8) |
Shagnasty | 19 Jul 2007 9:42 p.m. PST |
The "Turtle" that attempted to sink British warships in NY harbour was by a guy named Bushnell, a blacksmith I think. Fulton's sub was, (drumroll) the "Nautilus" and was, I believe, offered to both the French and British navies. |
Supercilius Maximus | 20 Jul 2007 6:34 a.m. PST |
You are absolutely right. Fulton was a bit later – his vessel was rejected by Napoleon as "ungentlemanly" IIRC. Interesting piece on the "Turtle" here – never knew that Franklin was involved with the project: link |
bogdanwaz | 20 Jul 2007 6:59 a.m. PST |
The old Burt Lancaster movie "The Crimson Pirate" has a great battle scene at the end where a whole fleet of Turtle-like submarines attack the bad guys' fortress. (There's also a scene where the heroes use an upside-down rowboat as a prmitive submarine that was copied in Pirates of the Carib.0 |
The Gray Ghost | 20 Jul 2007 11:12 a.m. PST |
>Leyden Jar is a capacitor, made from a glass jar wrapped in foil. It was charged with a static generator (rubbing a cat?)< But where can I get a figure of a man rubbing a cat??? |
The Gray Ghost | 20 Jul 2007 3:34 p.m. PST |
Well I've got a couple of floating ships built, now do I pit the Dutch against the Holy Roman Empire or the Turks against the HRE? |
abdul666lw | 04 Sep 2007 6:36 a.m. PST |
Gray Ghost (and other), we are waiting for photos! Cheers, Jean-Louis |
JeanLuc | 04 Sep 2007 6:49 a.m. PST |
see Hellraiser 4 part 18th century part 20th part future |
Luke Mulder | 20 Jan 2008 4:08 p.m. PST |
Perhaps an army based on concepts expounded on in "L'an 2440" by Mercier. This book, published in 1771, shows what an 18th century man thought the far future might be like in Paris. A Utopian army, wearing baggy but still 18th century looking uniforms. |
abdul666lw | 21 Jan 2008 3:47 p.m. PST |
@ Luke Mulder: intringuing suggestion
Are you not a Master Converter? Then what about *also* the semi18th C. troops of 'Monster Blood Tattoo'? TMP link Cheers, Jean-Louis |
aecurtis | 21 Jan 2008 10:23 p.m. PST |
Ooh, good to see this one revived! >>> In "Brotherhood of the Wolf" Marc Decascos played an Native American that somehow knew martial arts. What Mani displays mostly could be attributed to stick fighting (common both among the Iroquois--not just in lacrosse!--and in France) and the "jeu Marseillais", a foot-and open hand-fighting style which developed among French sailors in the c.18th. Both those arts were influences on savate, which developed in the following century. Dacascos himself is a champion in both kung fu and karate, and no doubt was also influenced by his father's own style, Wun Hop Kuen Do. Al Dacascos is a widely-recognized martial artist, trainer, and teacher. Allen |
Cardinal Hawkwood | 22 Jan 2008 2:07 a.m. PST |
I am thinking of introducing The Doctor into my Kopf-Schlager world, actually I think i have already introduced him and he had David Morier travelling with him, cant wait for the drawings.. |
abdul666lw | 22 Jan 2008 3:42 p.m. PST |
Wonder to what degree the Mani of 'BoW' (a French movie) was influenced by Goscinny & Uderzo's Oumpa-pah (a French comics): a Native American befriending a you French 'Chevalier' and coming to France with him. Of course, the characters and adventures designed by the inventors of Asterix were less 'dark'. |
abdul666lw | 14 Mar 2008 8:41 a.m. PST |
@ bogdanwaz: surely you did not use these marvelous models only once? Are there other photos / AAR available on the web? Do you have a blog? @ The Gray Ghost: "[] floating seige bombard and battery []. The bombard and battery were made to look like hotair ballons held them up and a small flaoting ship was also used.": TMP link Still no digital camera? How is your "Steam Tanks and War Wagons" TMP link project advancing? Best regards to both, JL link |
abdul666lw | 18 Mar 2008 10:13 a.m. PST |
@ bogdanwaz: I tried to e-mail you through the GASLIGHTRules group, but my message bounced back, seemingly the address is no longer valid. How could I contact you otherwise? Jean-Louis Lacepunk: link |