 Extra Crispy  | 18 Jul 2007 1:35 p.m. PST |
I'm trying to get a skin tone I like and this is the first one I bothered to finish. link It also reflects my return to a much more subtle highlighting method – no more meat cutting charts for me. What do you think? |
| Old Digger | 18 Jul 2007 1:40 p.m. PST |
I think you got it dead-on Crispy. Well done sir. ~OD |
| Elianto | 18 Jul 2007 1:43 p.m. PST |
Let us know what color and procedure you used! I'm waiting my order of woodland indian to paintup :)
Elianto
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| Extra Crispy | 18 Jul 2007 2:00 p.m. PST |
This is a mix of Ceramcoat Georgia Clay and Vallejo Sunny Skin. Mix them 50/50, thin a bit and use as a basecoat. Then add progressively more sunny skin for highlights. Done! |
| dscarpenter | 18 Jul 2007 2:00 p.m. PST |
It mite be a tad on the reddish side. A lot is made of native American's "coppery" skin tone, but most natives I know have more of a bronzed skin color in the summer than the red/copper you see in the movies. I live in Oklahoma, btw, so I do see quite a few Native Americans on a regular basis . . . Not being nit-picky to be nit-picky, btw! The paint job looks fine, my comments are meant to be purely constructive! |
| Extra Crispy | 18 Jul 2007 2:03 p.m. PST |
Thanks – that's exacly the kind of help I'm looking for. So to contrast to my sample, do you think adding orange would move the color in the right direction? |
| LaTrey | 18 Jul 2007 2:27 p.m. PST |
I use a dark brown undercoat followed by a heavy drybrushing of Apple Barrel's "Cinnamon Apple". I highlight that with a graded mix of Cinnamon Apple and Creamcoat's Caucasian flesh. GW's Dwarf Flesh is sometimes substituted for this also. I try very hard to differentiate the skin tone from my woodland Indian's mostly leather garb. |
 ColCampbell  | 18 Jul 2007 2:47 p.m. PST |
The Choctaw Indians that I see here in Mississippi have more of a brown cast to their skin rather than a copper so you might want to darken the base coat a bit more. Being out in the sun and weather without a lot of clothing (at least in the summer) will tend to darken the skin, even on American Indians. Of course this is from someone who has only attempted to paint Apaches and not Eastern Woodland Indians yet. :^) Jim |
| rmaker | 18 Jul 2007 3:14 p.m. PST |
A bit light perhaps, but I've known Anishinabe and Dakota with skins lighter than that. |
| Extra Crispy | 18 Jul 2007 3:17 p.m. PST |
All right, now this is really not helpful. Lighter, darker, redder, browner, copperer… Don't they all look the same  ? |
| dscarpenter | 18 Jul 2007 3:32 p.m. PST |
A little orange might help, or a fairly diuted brown wash. I think the suggestions to start with more of a brown undercoat is probably about right. |
 Jlundberg | 18 Jul 2007 5:24 p.m. PST |
I think it ranged quite a lot. The Eastern Woodland Indians would be relatively light, while the further sounth, the more tanned. |
| TheWarStoreSweetie | 18 Jul 2007 5:34 p.m. PST |
Eric at Conquest Mini's has a great formula using VMC and VGC and he shared it with me at Cold Wars. I just need to find the card he wrote on it for me. I know it uses VGC Beasty Brown and one of the VMC Flesh Tones -- I just don't remember which ones. But the mix was great. Darn!!!! Where did I put that?!?!?!?!?! |
| Lentulus | 18 Jul 2007 6:40 p.m. PST |
First nations skin tones are quite variable around here, although that may be related to 500 years of shared history? |
| Mapleleaf | 19 Jul 2007 6:49 a.m. PST |
The majority of 17th/18th Century Eastern woodland Indians would would much like tanned Europeans – I say majority beacuse the nations had the habit of adopting prisoners into their societies and these would include both male and female mostly white and a few blacks.
In addition in Canada a number of French men and Metis were known to don Amerind dress and paint and join war parties. So if you are painting a typical war party of the Seven Years War period it would be OK to include all kinds of skin tones including black.
As ColCampbell suggests a bit lighter and browner You may want to try some paint and tatoos.
Here are two illustraions from the Canadian Military Heritage project:
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Troop of Shewe  | 20 Jul 2007 4:33 a.m. PST |
"meat cutting charts" – brilliant -lol- Thewarstoresweetie, you ever find that piece of paper?, conquest have it spot on. |
| Extra Crispy | 20 Jul 2007 7:32 a.m. PST |
Troop: I can't take credit for that – John the OFM coined it (or at least, that's where I heard it). Actually, it was that phrase that sent me back to my old way of painting. My style had drifted more and more to the meat cutting chart style and I've decided I don't really like it all that much… |
| billguy | 20 Jul 2007 11:53 a.m. PST |
This is a pretty cool book: link I saw this in the On Military Matters booth at Cold Wars and it details several different skin color variants with very nice examples of each. If I hadn't already chosen the skin color for my Indians I would have bought it. |
| quantumcat | 20 Jul 2007 7:38 p.m. PST |
There used to be a swell thread that linked to a site that
showed various 'races',their skin tones and the paints to
match them. I wish I could find the link now. |
| Cacique Caribe | 28 Jan 2008 8:16 p.m. PST |
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