oopsdoubleone  | 04 Jun 2007 2:16 p.m. PST |
has anyone read Robert Conroys book on the Germn Invasion of America? or used it as the basis of a wargames campaign. we are looking to use it with Tiger miniature figures and sword and flame rules. any advice or comments please. |
| rmaker | 04 Jun 2007 3:06 p.m. PST |
I started it, but it was so bad I couldn't finish it. Politically and culturally improbable and technically impossible. |
| Gluteus Maximus | 05 Jun 2007 2:16 a.m. PST |
…"Politically and culturally improbable and technically impossible." When has that ever been an obstacle to a good game? ;-) Seriously, you are right, it is badly written, which is a shame as the potential for a great campaign is huge. |
 McKinstry   | 05 Jun 2007 5:58 a.m. PST |
We fought the big convoy naval battle. Great fun for the US player, a bit too lopsided for the German. Dropping the US monitors made for a better rematch. Panzerschiffe makes all the models needed in 1/2400 with a couple of really nice Viking Forge models thrown in as well. Writing could be better but given the actual German war plans, it wasn't that far from what the German General Staff had as contingency plans. They really thought that seizing some US seacoast cities would bring the US to the table. |
| pphalen | 05 Jun 2007 7:59 a.m. PST |
Haven't read the book, but have been involved in several variations on the theme. "The Truth about the Hindenburg" was a GASLIGHT scenario, which included a German Invasion of Lakewood, NJ. The Germans were a mixture of "basic" troops, plus some Eureka Flying Prussians and Helicopter troops( link ) The US had Cops, "Pineys", Joisey Boys ( gangsters ) and Rocket Troops. Those pesky Germans also attacked Grover's mill the year before, same mix of troops on the US side, the German's didn't have any flyers, but had a tripod and another walker. Another game friends of mine did, was a German Sub grounded off of the Jersey Shore, so the Huns came ashore to try to steal a boat to pull the sub free |
| rmaker | 05 Jun 2007 8:46 a.m. PST |
Writing could be better but given the actual German war plans, it wasn't that far from what the German General Staff had as contingency plans. They really thought that seizing some US seacoast cities would bring the US to the table. The GGS had no such warplans. The Kriegsmarine had some sketchy studies, but these were by a couple of junior officers who neglected a lot of serious points, like the range of most of the German battleships, the sheer number of merchantmen needed to transport the troops that the Army porbably wouldn't have given them, the difficulty of landing the troops, and any serious study of US geaography and topography. |
| Jim McDaniel | 05 Jun 2007 10:02 a.m. PST |
This sounds rather like the war plans to invade each other drawn up by an American hating Canadian major and his anglophobe counterpart in the US Army in the years after WWI. The plans were dropped and consigned to their respective national archives when their superiors got wind of them and told the would-be invasion planners to get real as America and the British Empire weren't likely to fight each other. |
| McKinstry | 05 Jun 2007 11:18 a.m. PST |
There was a minor news item about a year ago where German contingency planners (at the Kaisers' request I believe) drew up plans to take a coastal foothold and use it to bargain for the Phillipines and Puerto Rico. It has been a while but I think it gets a mention in either 'Dreadnought' or "Castles of Steel'. |
| Combat Caveman | 05 Jun 2007 11:39 a.m. PST |
I thought the book was fun. Hey, I'm not looking for gret literature, I'm just looking for a fun way to pass the time. That's what I like about alternate history – the "what if's." |
| Jim McDaniel | 05 Jun 2007 5:25 p.m. PST |
The sex scene at the end in a pullman cabin was rather interesting too! |
