"Predator Aliens VS Uruk-Hai!!!" Topic

In this case, forget time travel or even trophy-hunting expeditions into the real distant past . . .

A squad of Predators makes an inter-dimensional jump into Tolkien's Middle Earth . . .

The come across a large scouting party of Uruk-Hai and, to be sporty, the Predators limit themselves to hand-to-hand weapons . . .

How many figures of each would you use to make the game "fair"?

CC
PS. You know me, I'm always thinking up new applications in gaming.

Hmmm tricky one. Beyond fighting ability you'd have to consider intelligence. The Uruk-Hai are brutal thugs thinking of nothing but hacking down an opponent. The predator on the other hand would be a skilled intelligent fighter.

I'd say just hand to hand you'd have 5 Urak-Hai to 1 predator.

Batman can clearly take Wolverine, provided he has enough prep time.

I'd say 5:1 is pretty good for Uruks v Predators. But shouldn't the Preds be hunting balrogs???:)

3-5 predators vs. 20-30 Uruk-Hai.
Id try this with gaslight giving the predators really high saving throws and multiple shooting dice.
I'd cover the table with blocking terrain and a barrow ground area. Once the Uruks are obliterated, their deaths summon up a barrow wight to harass the predators trying to exit the table.
Id give the wight the same stats as a predator.
It might be a fun game.

In movie land, there weren't enough Uraks under the sun to have a fair chance against Aragorn, as we saw at the end of The Fellowship of the Ring, and I'd wager he is no match for a predator. For gaming, Ravenscraft suggests a decent set-up, 3-5 predators against lots of Uraks. I'd use multiple bounds (like an Alamo or Space Hulk game) and let the Uraks regenerate 1-2 times.

Would you give the Predators stealth/cloaking ability or would that be too unsportsman-like?

CC

The Urak-Hai are animal based and have very keen senses. They would still be able to locate the predator by smell.

"Predator Aliens VS Uruk-Hai!!!"
That's gotta be fun.

"Batman can clearly take Wolverine, provided he has enough prep time."

Superman took prep time, but Bats was up to the challenge; so Wolverine would go down far easier than Sups.

5:1 would be good odds on the Predator Aliens vs Uruk-Hai battle, especially if you do not give the Predator Aliens their ability to blend in to the surroundings. I think Germy is wrong when he says the orcs could still sense the Predators. They could not sense Frodo when he was invisible, so no way they would sense the Predators.

DM

LOL. Maybe Frodo was using an odor sanitizer spray!

CC

LOL!

WOW, CC, i have done some original game scenarios in my time, but, somehow i missed PREDATORS vs URUK-HAI! this is one i will just have to set down and think about for a 5150 scenario . . .

i would think that the URUK-HAI, who seem to be able to see in both daylight and complete darkness, (infra-red sensitive?) posses keen hearing and sense of smell, would be able to spot the PREDATOR even when cloaked. URUK-HAI are reputed to be pretty damned fast, nimble, very strong and with incredible endurance at least equal to that of the APACHE INDIANS and ZULUS of our world. URUK-HAI tracking ability should not be sneered at either . . .

OOPS, i almost forgot their propensity to going beserk/amok, inflicting much pain on their opponents, before expiring from mortal wounds or being knocked out of the fight by serious wounds. . .

the PREDATOR armor would be better than the URUK-HAI, have excellent sensor suites, multi-spectrum vision enhancement gear, comms units, medi-kits, personal navigational devices, personal tracking devices, bio-monitors, "cloaking device", and even language translators as part of their hunting outfits.

PREDATOR CQC weaponry (staff weapon, wrist blades, shurikens, big assed knifes, and netguns) would clearly outclass URUK-HAI CQC weapons that are "not magical"). indeed evidence presented by hollyweird sources indicates that all edged weapons and the captured net are capable of slicing through modern edged weappnry with ease . . . so, BOGEYFLICKA, BULG, DRAGNATZ, and THE LADZ would soon be reduced to fists, feet, fangs, and foul language when engaging in CQC with any PREDATORS!

your average PREDATOR is also prone to gong berserk/amok and fighting on with mortal wounds, posses incredible physical strenth and hardiness as well as endurance that is, well, super human. . .

PREDATORS seem to posses a sense of "honor" in regards to selecting suitable prey for trophies, something URUK HAI do not have.

and let us not forget that when the PREDATOR is mortally wounded and unable to fight back, he is packing a small tactical nuclear device that is supposed to prevent his opponents from salvaging any of his high tech gear, as well as delivering a retalitory strike as a going away present . . .

i would opt for a minimum of 10 URUK-HAI for each PREDATOR, and suggest that a minimum of 20 URUK-HAI would not be unreasonable. . .

DAWGIE, placing his dosh on the PREDATORS . . .

"WOW, CC, i have done some original game scenarios in my time, but, somehow i missed PREDATORS vs URUK-HAI! this is one i will just have to set down and think about for a 5150 scenario . . . "

Dawgie, you know me, my brain never stops, er, "working". :)

CC

"But shouldn't the Preds be hunting balrogs???:)"

I think the balrog would dust the floor with the preds. Nasty as an Alien Queen can be she has nothing on a spell toting, evil personified, winged demon with a flaming sword and whip. But it would still be a fun game.

Oh….Heck,

Just "nuke-em" ALL from outter space, It's the only way to be sure!

As ever at your service,

Haggis

The Uruk Hai couldn't spot Frodo because of the magic ring- there was more than straight forward invisibility. Would Pred armour incorporate total sensory nulling- probably not, because you could see the distortion caused by the suit- a bit like 007's Vanquish (The bit when Nu-Q steps behind it for instance).

Aragon was yer gen-u-ine 'ero, which is why he did so well. How do Pred compare to Uruks? I'd say give 'em better shooting, less tough, but better armour. better trained in melee, but less strong. let the Uriks hunt by smell but a negative to hit while the pred is invisible.

How about Preds versus zombies?

The ring just made you invisible. You could still be heard, smelt and if I remember THE HOBBIT correctly, in really bright sunlight you left a faint shadow

Smell masking is a simple technology (note to guys at Historicon!) Deer hunters wear army surplus chemical protection gear and it seems to work on a fairly routine basis.

Pedator vs. elves- that would be sweet!

Predator vs Terminator
Aliens vs Elves
Starship Troopers vs any Competent NATO army (That would be a NATO win then)

Don't forget about your Urak Hai berserkers and their suicide bombs! Also, the Predators would do well while armored but I suspect the strongest Urak Hai could probably crush or damage the armor if they get close enough to deliver a good punch or bear hug. So I would give the Predators a decided edge as long as they are fighting at range, up close the longer the melee lasts the more it should favor the Urak Hai.

I reckon Aragorn would best a predator, mano-a-monstro.

Would the UH get crossbows?

Would the preds get optical camo?

I reckon a berserker and a pred would be fairly evenly matched.