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Cacique Caribe23 Mar 2007 9:24 a.m. PST

I don't have much hope, as we are dealing the the SciFi Channel here, but I thought I would share this upcoming movie set during the final years of WWII:

link
link
imdb.com/title/tt0969322

CC

John the OFM23 Mar 2007 9:36 a.m. PST

Oh.
My.
Goodness.

Cacique Caribe23 Mar 2007 9:38 a.m. PST

John,

I know. I thought they had already run out of weird plots. I guess I was wrong.

CC

Rattrap123 Mar 2007 9:38 a.m. PST

It's got Joe Penny! How can it be bad. :-)

One of my many goals in life is to one day develop projects for Sci Fi Channel Pictures.

Rich

Gabriel Landowski Fezian23 Mar 2007 9:43 a.m. PST

Hey! I thought it looked pretty good in the trailer…

..gives the air gamers one more thing to worry about on their table tops!

Cacique Caribe23 Mar 2007 9:52 a.m. PST

Gabriel,

I think it might be another "roll-eyes" SciFi Channel film but, as you point out, it might actually have some gaming potential.

CC

Steve Hazuka23 Mar 2007 10:02 a.m. PST

"Rain of the gagreels" is more like it

Steve Hazuka23 Mar 2007 10:03 a.m. PST

Didn't Turtledove or someone write a series of books like this with mythological creatures fighting during WWII or something?

Broadsword23 Mar 2007 10:08 a.m. PST

Can it be worse than SciFi's very own GRENDEL?

imdb.com/title/tt0845463

Al | rivetsandsteam.com

15mm and 28mm Fanatik23 Mar 2007 10:13 a.m. PST

What's the big deal? Everyone knows that the Nazis were responsible for creating monsters like werewolves, zombies, gargoyles and hot tight leather-wearing, whip-wielding dominatrixes.

Delta Mouse23 Mar 2007 10:29 a.m. PST

I have my DVR already set and am actually looking forward to seeing it. I usually hate SciFi channel movies, but am willing to hold judgment until I see it…

DM

I really hope I am not in tears afterwards…

Lentulus23 Mar 2007 10:31 a.m. PST

No more historicaly innacurate than most WWII movies.

Cacique Caribe23 Mar 2007 10:31 a.m. PST

DM,

LOL. I might be in tears too. I set my DVR too. Misery love company, I guess. :)

CC

Rattrap123 Mar 2007 10:33 a.m. PST

See, I expect them to be bad. So if that happens, I'm not upset. I just sit there and enjoy the ride. Now, if they happen to turn out good, then I'm surprised and get to feel good about it.

Never any disappointment. :-)

Cacique Caribe23 Mar 2007 10:40 a.m. PST

Operator5,

Oh, the joys of being a pessimist! :)

CC

Rattrap123 Mar 2007 10:44 a.m. PST

I prefer the term realist. :-)

But I love bad sci fi/fantasy/horror movies (Barbarian Queen, Troma's War, etc.). I was doing the whole MST3K thing like most people long before it was on. In high school a friend and I would rent a couple of bad movies, order a couple of pizzas, and spend an afternoon making fun of the stuff.

CeruLucifus23 Mar 2007 10:51 a.m. PST

I'm hoping to be in tears. Tears of laughter.

Jana Wang23 Mar 2007 11:26 a.m. PST

Oh yeah, that's on my 'must see' list. Right up there with "Grindhouse" imdb.com/title/tt0462322 . Any movie with a trailer called "Werewolf Women of the S.S." has got to be worth paying for. :)

Rudysnelson23 Mar 2007 1:00 p.m. PST

If nothing else is on,Iwillwatch it for awhile.

Broadsword23 Mar 2007 1:03 p.m. PST

"Grindhouse" looks like fun! Wonder what will be on the director's cut DVD? ;)

Al | rivetsandsteam.com

CalypsoCommando23 Mar 2007 1:34 p.m. PST

I thought being bad was the whole point to the Saturday night Sci-Fi creature features. I'm actually disappointed when they're merely mediocre.

This one appears to have Nazis – that's usually a good indicator for laugh out loud badness, (almost as good as dinosaurs.)

Greyalexis23 Mar 2007 2:24 p.m. PST

So how will flames of war start using them?

Mobius23 Mar 2007 3:37 p.m. PST

Another one of these huh?

OK, let me tell you about the small Allied group.
Odds will be there will be.
1 American city guy.
1 American country guy.
1 British guy
1 Black guy
1 gal
1 wierd or techie guy of some sort.
1 Foreign (non US or UK) guy.

All on the same aircrew.
..Hollywood formula..

Striker23 Mar 2007 3:41 p.m. PST

I am looking forward to this! Being not much of a fan of the disaster movies (lost me when CGI replaced scale models), the last 2 weeks of my bad-sci-fi-saturday night have been a drag. They need to pull out that gargoyle movie from the late 70's/early 80's set in the SW.

Cacique Caribe23 Mar 2007 6:12 p.m. PST

"They need to pull out that gargoyle movie from the late 70's/early 80's set in the SW."

Striker,

You mean this one?
TMP link

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Striker23 Mar 2007 8:50 p.m. PST

That's the one! Haven't seen it in decades but now the search is on!

StarfuryXL523 Mar 2007 9:05 p.m. PST

Let's not forget SciFi's other gargoyle gem from a couple of years back, Gargoyle: Wings of Darkness. Oh, wait--yes, let's do forget it.

Broadsword23 Mar 2007 9:44 p.m. PST

@ Mobius – The gal will most likely be French, or maybe British. Or a German double-agent.

Al | rivetsandsteam.com

Cacique Caribe23 Mar 2007 9:58 p.m. PST

I think Julia Rose will be the token girl:

picture

CC

Penchour24 Mar 2007 12:38 a.m. PST

If it comes like doomtrooper : etheral CGA blue hulk 'rampaging' French partisans speackin quebecois in the ruins of a 70's bulgarian soviet production unit called 'the village' …. it's going to be fun(ny)!

KatieL24 Mar 2007 8:32 a.m. PST

My word. Doomtrooper.

That WAS a terrible, terrible film.

Broadsword24 Mar 2007 9:41 a.m. PST

@ Cacique Caribe – Your link gets a "access denied" jpg.

Do you mean her: picture

Cacique Caribe24 Mar 2007 11:39 a.m. PST

Broadsword,

That's the girl!!! Though the picture was the same one that IMBD has here:

imdb.com/name/nm0741496

CC

Cold Steel24 Mar 2007 7:26 p.m. PST

I am actually watching Gargoyles now. It is bad, even by SciFi standards! They have even figured out how to recycle monsters and whole scenes from Grendel.

On the plus side, they do have some good CGI of B17 and JU88's.

Rudysnelson24 Mar 2007 8:07 p.m. PST

Very weak. A private ordering a major . Airborne Colonel in charge of B-17s. Air Corps wearing infantry brass.

Major in back of the truck and shooting at targets in front of the truck. Very poor show.

Goldwyrm24 Mar 2007 8:27 p.m. PST

Rudy, You forgot the anti-aircraft mortar!

Void Trekker24 Mar 2007 8:34 p.m. PST

I tried to find it on youtube. Nothing matches. This can be an indication of an extremely bad movie, but I still think it would be fun to watch.

LaTrey24 Mar 2007 9:38 p.m. PST

A wonderfully bad crapfest!

RabidFox24 Mar 2007 11:59 p.m. PST

It wasn't that bad guys.
It also wasn't that good either.

Joe Penny?
Yuck!
Should have had Billy Zane from "The Phantom" as the Colonel.
Same basic look, but a much better actor.
That would have raised the movie up a great deal.

Plus, they needed a better German actor for the SS Colonel.

At least Doomtrooper at Corin Nemec from SG1 as the staring American soldier.
I really do not and never did like Joe Penny and I have not been impressed with anything Wes Ramsey has acted in.

Plus, who in the world was that heroine?
Has any one seen that actress before?

The surviving British commando, the major, whose beret flash actually identifies him as an SAS trooper, was played by a decent actor.
Who was it?

Well, it was not high cinema, but I did not flinch too badly while watching it.
I guess I just am able to suspend belief better than many for a two hour duration.

Kaoschallenged25 Mar 2007 12:30 a.m. PST

LOL The British Airborne officer was also wearing US Major insignina om his collar . The "Jeep" on the airfield was a Soviet "Gaz". One of the flyers called the 8th Air Force a division. Also none of the enlisted men were wearing any Chrevrons. The female heroine had a Mosin Nagant rifle. Even the armbands on the SS were wrong. They had the short arms like the Finns used. There were quite a few inaccuracies. Other then that it was ok for a B- movie. Robert

Top Gun Ace25 Mar 2007 2:05 a.m. PST

At least there was an attempt at a storyline, and I found it to be much more entertaining than Doomtrooper.

Then again, I just like gargoyles, since they look cool…..

One of my favorite unreal parts was near the end of the story, when the American guarding the truck changes weapons, from a MG, which I assume has jammed.

The Germans are standing within spitting distance, and hold their fire for a few seconds (5+?) while he picks up a MP-40 from the back of the truck and then proceeds to shoot them dead. They are in the same frame as the guy is, at close range, and just stand there waiting to be shot.

Of course, jousting with the head gargoyle, with a He-111, and a hand-held spear was a bit over the top too. The least the guy could have done was stick it through the plexiglass nosecone, before ramming the flying creature in mid-air. Seems like they could use a stunt coreographer.

Matsuru Sami Kaze25 Mar 2007 6:09 a.m. PST

I laughed pretty hard in the WWII Sci Fi channel Gargoyles movie. I finally determined that it was a comedy when they shot down an ME-109 with a mortar.

The B-17 interiors were waaay too roomy. I've been in a B-17 and they are a tight fit, not much room. The dorsal turret looked like you could put a love seat in there. The Ball Turret interior appeared to already have an overstuffed chair in it. Far to much diameter in their B-17. The flight gear didn't fit.There leader helmets were made of some sort of platic, and the officer's dress hats didn't look right. The brims were fabric. The briefing colonel always had the same map with arrows no matter what mission.

Oh yeah, when they shot down the Me-109 with a mortar, they did it inside a cave. Funny stuff.

Striker25 Mar 2007 7:02 a.m. PST

It wasn't too bad for a sci-fi movie, must have been big monster night. I'll say it, anything with nazis, the occult, and monsters is something I'm watching. I did catch part of Cerebus too but fell asleep, not bored but tired from working 3rd on Friday night. I need to think about building a ruined castle for a pulp game.

Mobius25 Mar 2007 7:21 a.m. PST

Anyone notice a pattern to these Sci-Fi-war movies? Nazis create/provoke creature. It runs amok killing Nazis and Allied troops alike. Send in Allied 1. ground forces. 2. Air forces.

So what will the next one have?
Its got to be sea forces.

Nazi U-boat is taken over by something.
Send in a combined US, UK, other nationalities in an Allied sub to fight… what?
Vampires?
Sharks?
Some sort of CGI sea monster?
Vampire sharks?

DAWGIE25 Mar 2007 7:22 a.m. PST

CORNEL WILDE' s gargolye movie was a much better effort, and would make a very nice game for rhe table top using your choice of rules.

wayback when, i popped this oto my friends using 40K:RT rules (modified), and everyone had a good time ruining their drawers ( i set it in the OLD WEST the first time, then used it again in a modern setting).


i particularly liked the rasping buzz the gargoyles sounded off with when they built up to and then went into attack mode. . .


DAWGIE

Doctor Strangelove25 Mar 2007 9:41 a.m. PST

Best movie Sci-Fi Channel has ever done, even better than "Doom Trooper"

crewchiefmodels25 Mar 2007 10:38 a.m. PST

I saw it last night, OMG that was sooooooo awfull. And I was kind of in the mood for a pulp scifi nazi gargoyle film.

angus85825 Mar 2007 2:11 p.m. PST

I watched for the first 20 minutes. Exterior views of the bomber switched back and forth between Fortress and Liberator. I gave up when I heard the SS officer's bad accent. Later, I heard my kids (12 and 13 years old) howling with laughter. They told me about the mortar shooting down the plane.

Cacique Caribe25 Mar 2007 2:24 p.m. PST

Smart kids!!!

CC

Landorl26 Mar 2007 6:27 a.m. PST

I liked it, but two parts stand out as the worst. The shootind down of the plane with the mortar… Best mortar shot ever!!! And the jousting with the plane and the gargoyle.

Other than that, it wasn't too bad.

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