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camelspider23 Mar 2007 7:10 a.m. PST

Well, questions, anyway.

1) What small arms did the armies use in this war? I recall vaguely from my reading in college (more than two decades ago) that the Paraguayans used smoothbore muskets and the Triple Alliance used mostly rifled muskets or even better weapons, but memory is creaky.

2) Similar question about the artillery -- if memory serves, the Triples used artillery similar to late-war Union artillery (mixed smoothbores and rifled artillery), but the Paraguayans were using old smoothbores from the early 19th or even 18th centuries.

3) What percentage of the Paraguayan foot would have been in the full service uniform with actual pants, what percentage in the kilt and poncho, and finally the loincloth?

4) I remember there being an issue with the Freikorps castings being in bad shape a few years ago – have the molds been improved in the interim? (I know there's only one pose for each troop type, BTW.)

Saginaw may suggest I join the Yahoo group, and I will if I remember when I'm home! (Can't do it from work, as I'm blocked by websense.)

TIA

camelspider23 Mar 2007 7:20 a.m. PST

(TMP bug attack deleted)

I should mention that I'm talking about the earlier phase of the war here, when set-piece battles were still being fought, and maneuver warfare was going on -- before the "siege of Paraguay" set in, and certainly before the guerilla war. Thanks.

Buckeye AKA Darryl23 Mar 2007 8:14 a.m. PST

Larry,

You should join the SACA Wars yahoo group. These questions have been asked their by myself and answers were given. Good bunch of chaps. There are also some file downloads there that would help.

Take a look at the Freikorps range for this War. It mentions the types of arty that each side used.

camelspider23 Mar 2007 8:34 a.m. PST

Where's that? Freikorps is owned by QRF now -- I don't see any reference to which guns to use on the QRF page.

Yes, I mentioned the Yahoo group in my message.

Buckeye AKA Darryl23 Mar 2007 10:08 a.m. PST

hmmm, they used to. Hang on, I created a database on the group and listed the guns needed…let me dig that up…

ACG10 Argentinean 6pdr M1841 (from American Civil War range)
ACG17 Brazilian 12pdr Whitworth muzzle-loading rifle (from American Civil War range)
ACG18 Brazilian 12pdr Whitworth breech-loading rifle (from American Civil War range)
FUG01 Brazilian 4pdr field gun (La Hitte – from Franco-Prussian range)
For the Paraguayans you can use about anything.

I know you mentioned the group, my point was simply…JOIN! :)

Buckeye AKA Darryl23 Mar 2007 10:11 a.m. PST

For early war battles, all the regular Paraguayan infantry would have been in uniforms, as the war progressed more and more units wore have been moving to the kilt, and then the loincloth.

camelspider23 Mar 2007 12:07 p.m. PST

Ok, I'll join already. grin

Thanks for the information on the guns.

For the Paraguayan infantry, how early do you mean by early? Just 1865? Or do you mean until Tuyuty, or some other time?

BTW, any feedback on how the castings from QRF now look would be appreciated. They were supposed to be pretty rough when I last checked a few years back. Thanks.

GeoffQRF23 Mar 2007 4:01 p.m. PST

4) I remember there being an issue with the Freikorps castings being in bad shape a few years ago – have the molds been improved in the interim? (I know there's only one pose for each troop type, BTW.)

Yep, we remoulded the whole range.

The range is listed here, although it is sadly short of photos at the moment: link

Geoff

Personal logo Saginaw Supporting Member of TMP23 Mar 2007 10:06 p.m. PST

Larry, please take Darryl's suggestion as an invitation to join the SACAWars Yahoo group. You won't be sorry that you did!

link

Good luck!

Personal logo Saginaw Supporting Member of TMP23 Mar 2007 10:07 p.m. PST

And that goes for anyone else interested in the wars in Central and South America. C'mon in!

:-)

Buckeye AKA Darryl26 Mar 2007 4:01 a.m. PST

Larry, by the time of Tuyuti I would say you could start mixing in figures with the kilts and even a few with loinclothes, but there would still be a decent mix of regularly clothed Paraguayans.

camelspider27 Mar 2007 9:23 a.m. PST

Thanks Darryl.

I joined the yahoo list. Man, that's a quiet list.

Buckeye AKA Darryl28 Mar 2007 4:58 p.m. PST

It is quiet at times. So post a message, might get some things shaking!

WeeSparky29 Mar 2007 1:40 p.m. PST

I just checked Wikipedia for the musket info, but it appears that Paraguay has been deleted.

Big Miller Bro29 Mar 2007 4:16 p.m. PST

Paraguay isnt really a popular country so it likely got removed

Napoleon III02 Apr 2007 9:54 a.m. PST

LOL!! thumbs up Well-played, WeeSparky and Big Miller Bro!!

camelspider04 Apr 2007 8:10 a.m. PST

Thanks for the info Brian. BTW, how are those rules? I've heard of them but don't have many particulars. What's the scale?

My thought was to paint forces to playtest for Phil Barker's uncoming DBM-like rules set, "Horse Foot Guns," but I am certainly open to suggestion. The only problem seems to be the lack of pose variety in the only line of models for the war.

camelspider05 Apr 2007 7:53 a.m. PST

Thanks katanas, I'll take a look.

Buckeye AKA Darryl06 Apr 2007 7:56 a.m. PST

The scale of Fields of Honor is variable, from company up to regiment IIRC. The work Brian did for the GPW is very complete and well done, and because of it I purchased my own copy of FoH so I could use his lists.

Buckeye AKA Darryl18 Apr 2007 10:09 a.m. PST

Brian,

Indeed I was, especially after I got my copy of FOH! :) Seriously, even before that I was able to get the gist of what each unit could do, how they were rated, and what they were armed with.

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