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TimePortal24 Mar 2024 8:42 p.m. PST

Hi guys, I am reviewing the records from book I showed the photo from Facebook. Covers the cemeteries in Clay which was part of Talladega and Randolph counties, Cleburne and Randolph counties.
So I am seeing which companies and regiments that they enlisted.
Reading other facts of individuals career or died.
Some interesting facts so far are:
One guy served as the Brigade blacksmith.
One guy served the whole war as a train engineer.
One officer gave up his commission in the infantry to reenlist in the cavalry as a private after recovery from wounds.

Anyway my question is was there company Y? Several men had this company listed.

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP25 Mar 2024 5:11 a.m. PST

There shouldn't have been. From memory the ten companies of a volunteer regiment were named A-K with 'J' being skipped.

A couple of possibilities why 'Y' might be listed: By the time they died memories faded or children misunderstood where they served and listed their unit incorrectly, perhaps a Regular Confederate regiment with multiple battalions, perhaps pre-war militia with state designations, perhaps being ornery independent minded southerners they went with a designation they liked?

Perhaps the local historical society or SCV might have post war remanences that might shed light on the local units?

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP25 Mar 2024 5:42 a.m. PST

I'd agree with Dn Jackson.

Only speculating, but were these people like the train engineer or the blacksmith? Might be a way of designating people on the books but not in the ranks.

Almost on point, at one point in WWII, Third Army had artillery batteries equipped with captured German guns, so they could use up captured German ammunition. They were commonly designated "Battery Z." Widely understood at the time, but I expect it's already causing confusion among descendants and amateur historians.

HMS Exeter25 Mar 2024 6:38 a.m. PST

Do any of the "Company Y's" listing connect to a higher organization? 45th Regiment? 61st Battalion? Hazlett's Volunteers?

TimePortal25 Mar 2024 6:55 a.m. PST

Thanks guys.
I did a scan of printed newspapers from the era.
I have a bunch of Harpers from the 1960 Centennial reprint.
In some cases they used Y to replace J. Sorta makes sense since there are no J companies listed.

One new repeated fact. For several men under notation of service, we're comments on their capture and later release. It seems that several soldiers were wounded and in the hospital when captured. After capture., Rhee we're paroled and sent home even though it was only 1863 and 1864.

DisasterWargamer Supporting Member of TMP25 Mar 2024 10:00 a.m. PST

Could they be soldiers that participated with another states units?

While I was looking up references came across an odd one for you – but an error by someone misreading

A letter marked (3rd Reg AL Vols Company K) – In description marked Company Y

"Confederate Soldier's Due Covers. Three better stampless soldier's due covers, first with "Company Y, Third Regiment Alabama Volunteers, Entrenched Camp Near Norfolk Va" imprint, blue "Norfolk Va. Dec. 30, 1861" circular date stamp with matching "10" due handstamp, to Pleasant Hill Ala.,"

Lot 1559 link

HMS Exeter25 Mar 2024 9:18 p.m. PST

Perhaps these troops, after capture, agreed to be "galvanized" and went on to serve in (Y)ankee units.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP26 Mar 2024 2:28 p.m. PST

HMS: thought the same, but could find nothing about on the web.

TimePortal26 Mar 2024 3:45 p.m. PST

Now I am leaning toward the Y being used for J. Y can be found in old newspapers, maps and other documents of the 1800s. I checked the Regimental histories of some of the listed units. J companies are listed for most but none are on tombstones ot in early church and pension records. Pension records are the primary source for enlistment.

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