"Eureka Amazon Project: The Phalangitrixes" Topic

Nicely done. Your final product ruined a bit because of no terrain on the base.

The terraining will be done later, when all of the figures are done.

Dear Editor,

Can you change the filters so they may become somewhat "relaxed" for European audiences? After all, its only business. )

Cheers,
Robert
18thcenturysojourn.blogspot.com

Actually, I'd rather this had a "not safe for work" warning. The adult filter is working on the pictures though, which is a good thing as far as I am concerned. Relax nothing.

These are very bad – on a par with that picture of Zardoz that crops up now and then on TMP and makes my eyes hurt.

I dont mind the nudity , its the dirty bum cracks that concerns me 8^)

Dan I was thinking that – great big dirty bum cracks – very off putting. You'd think given the amount of leaves in the jungle…………

Can you change the filters so they may become somewhat "relaxed" for European audiences?

Funny thing is, it's the Europeans who complain most about "not safe for work"

Actually, I'd rather this had a "not safe for work" warning.

If you have the adult filter on, what's "not safe"?

These are very bad…

Your comment could be more constructive – bad sculpts? bad paintjob? bad subject matter?

…its the dirty bum cracks that concerns me…

Just think of it as a shadow. Yes, it could be more subtle, but wouldn't it be invisible then at any distance?

Actually the problem I have is the trumpeters: The garb they wear isn't a peasant blouse & skirt, it's a one-piece chiton, pinned at the shoulders and belted/bloused at the waist. They may look Greek, but it's Greek in the 1960's…

Hmm, those bums make the case for shading, highlighting, and the pitfalls of blacklining.

Errr… You are no longer allowed to paint anymore.

I imagine these might be kinda nice minis… but, the disasterous paint jobs totally turn me off of them.

I would have thought going around naked would be good for your tan. I really like the reversed colours on the musician.

Unfortunately, the pictures are not very flattering, and my camera is the culprit. Some miniatures look a little glossy (they are not). The dark red looks a little dull. In retrospective, more highlights in red would have helped. The unfortunate "dirty bum cracks" looks fine in the miniatures. Keep in mind that the miniature is one inch tall, and the pictures are twice that. The first group picture is about the right size.

@altfritz, I thought about doing them suntanned, but decided to do them pale for contrast. Of course, painted pale skin does not forgives mistakes! :-)

@CMikeHardy – So since I've insulted your sensibilities, I "am not allowed to paint anymore"? Everybody is entitled to his opinion, but you seem to go out of your way to be insulting.
I have painted actively for 20 years. My painting standard is above average. I have a (big) box full of prizes won at national and international IPMS shows, and have written several workbench and showcase articles here at TMP.

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My personal collection is over 3,000 miniatures (even after culling unfinished projects). Several TMP members have traded or commissioned painted miniatures with me, and were happy with the paintjob.

My intention in all of these articles is to show simple techniques that can give good results to beginners. Granted, some turn out better than others.

I can take criticism from other painters. So, what are your credentials? Can you show some examples of your work and show how your work is infinitely superior to mine? Can you suggest a better way to paint these miniatures?

If not, I will confine your comments along with those of the perfectionist, sterile, emasculated and annaly retentive critics that have yet to put paint and brush to a miniature.

And by the way, "disasterous" does not exist in English. It could be said that your spelling is disastrous, though.

Main Entry: di·sas·trous
Pronunciation: \di-ˈzas-trəs also -ˈsas-\
Function: adjective
Date: 1594
1 : attended by or causing suffering or disaster : calamitous <a disastrous flood>
2 : terrible, horrendous <a disastrous score>

— di·sas·trous·ly adverb

Anymore questions?

So you got a lot of minis, fine. You been painting a long time, fine too.
These are horrible. As previous posters have more lightheartedly attested to. I just pay you the honor of being blunt. If you'd like to see my work, you can look around and find it, saddly though, my work lacks the "dirty bum cracks." I guess I don't get to take it to that level unless I've been at it 20 years.

"Anymore questions?"
Just the ones you have not answered…

Anymore = any more? Saddly = sadly?

Lack of evidence puts you firmly in the group where I thought you would be. Thanks for confirming it.

You are no longer allowed to paint anymore.

Oh no, it's the Paint Police!

I imagine these might be kinda nice minis… but, the disasterous paint jobs totally turn me off of them.

Disastrous??? I'm quite glad to have them in the TMP collection, and am looking forward to showing off the entire units when the Sri Lanka-painted figures are based up.

Unfortunately, the pictures are not very flattering, and my camera is the culprit…

Actually, your pictures didn't turn out, so you asked me to take more. So these are the pictures I took.

Perhaps "Disasterous" was not a appropriate term?

Fine. I respectfully rephrase my opinion of your SHOWCASE to- These are very bad.

While I do have evidence. I just choose not to put them in the SHOWCASE as you've unfortunately done. The Editor likes 'em, so they must be awesome!

I'll be sure to vote favorably for them if you dare entering them at next year's Gencon painting competition.

SHOWCASE to = Showcase too? It is hard to understand you if you have problems writing and spelling.

I have entered Gencon competitions in the past, and done fairy well. I am no Golden Daemon winner, though. If I happen to be around, I'll be there next year, too.

Until you produce some evidence, we'll have to assume there is none. It looks like you have nothing to back up your claims. Maybe, it would be far more productive to start painting miniatures, instead of criticizing those who do.

I just choose not to put them in the SHOWCASE as you've unfortunately done.

First, the SHOWCASE is the part of TMP where we show new products, painted miniatures, etc. Being included in the Showcase does not mean that a product or figure has been endorsed or approved by TMP – just that we're making it available to view by a larger audience.

The Editor likes 'em, so they must be awesome!

I don't pretend to be an expert, but these figures do look fine to me. The point of the SHOWCASE is that we provide the pictures, so people can make up their own minds.

Beowulf , the figures look fine . I know what Eureka sculpts are like but would not have seen these painted but for your efforts . I probobly won't buy any as I think a more expensive alternative would suit me better .
Hope my tongue in cheek comment about the dirty bum cracks comment did not cause too much offense but this is not the forum I'd be searching for them on LOL.
I'm not as brave to have my work displayed in this manner so hats off to you.
Dan.
PS this was better written the first time before I got the cannot display message .

@ Dan aka Tallyhobiggles – No offense taken. Some will like the way I paint, some will not. I have no problem with my work being criticized. It is not perfect, and far from what you see in CMON. It doesn't pretend to be CMON material, more like an easy tutorial.
What I will not stand for is direct attacks.

One doesn't have to be a painter to be able to determine whether or not he likes the painting that he is looking at. It holds true for art work and for painted miniatures.

I think I am missing something obvious here – the paint job on these look perfectly acceptable to me.

I might have done the musicians with all-white or all off-white, maybe with a detailing line at teh base, but frankly that might be historically accurate but doesnt do a lot for visual attractiveness; the two-color approach has more visual appeal. And given the subject matter, trying to argue in favor of historical accuracy is pretty silly.

The two warriors are very nice indeed, and I would be quite happy to field a few 24-woman units of them.

Beowulf- I was wrong for saying what I did. Reacting so harshly to your efforts was completely out of line and uncalled for.

You have my sincerest apologies.

@CMikeHardy,
No problem. I shouldn't take things too personal, anyway.
I might still meet you at Gencon! :-)

I was glad to see these and hope the volunteer poster doesn't get discouraged by the poo-poo'ers. I have some of these figures in the clothed versions but now I want some of the au naturel models, now that I see what can be done with them. I only worry that sight of these pretty things is going to take all the fighting spirit out of their opponents.

I wonder how the nude warrioresses would look with tan lines (ha-ha, snort). Sexy!

The strange puritan attitudes on display puzzle me. Art is sometimes just art. Is the David statue NSFW, too? The Venus de Milo?

piper909, what puritan attitudes are you talking about? One person commented on there needing to be a NSFW warning (one's boss might object to viewing pictures of nude minis on company time, after all,) and a running battle regarding some people's opinions about the paint job.

God you guys, what pains in the ass some of you are!

Can we please just see the flipping models??

Beowulf, you may need to get acquainted with the concept of differing tastes when it comes to painted miniatures.

I wouldn't call the disastrous, but I also wouldn't consider them good. I feel the shading on the nudes is poorly done and apparently not better than what I can manage myself.

I've defintiely seen nudes work by other people I personally would consider far superior to yours (or mine!), whether they have 20 years of experience or not.

Granted, disastrous is to harsh. "Disastrous would be, say, application of a full-body wash that proves entirely to thick. (Yes, I'm talking from experience.)

Still, "not good" is a valid judgement considering the multitude of painting styles and options out there, because no one is any position to claim this is the one true style.

You seem to be implying that though in your reaction to criticism, which quite frankly comes off as arrogant – certainly not the best way to handle your response.

You may keep any spelling errors you find in this quickly-typed message. Why you would consider them convenient to hide behind is anyone's guess.

P.S. If I'm supposed to try and put a finger to it: From experience, I don't like skin tones on white primer. They tend to feel to "light" for me. I prefer light grey primer for anything with a lot of skin. That, and I don't think the shading turned out too well.

Perhaps "Disasterous" was not a appropriate term?

Actually, when he said the word did not exist, he was referring to the way you are spelling it. "Disasterous" does not exist in English. "Disastrous", however, does.

Freak from Vienna
I think your comment is a little harsh too – I don't see Beowulf claiming there was only painting style and that is his – the initial comment that Beowulf was responding to was "You are no longer allowed to paint anymore". I think that's more than just saying "I don't like your painting style". There is certainly nothing wrong with these though perhaps the flesh tones don't show up in the photos. As to the grammar/spelling points, well it is the case that, frequently on websites and blogs, trying to understand what people mean is made more difficult by the seeming confusion over words like 'their' and 'there' as an example (which seem pretty much interchangeable to many) – I was reading a post on another website by someone, showing their address as in New Zealand – it was so torturously and poorly written that his the points he was trying to make (and his undoubted knowledge of the subject – German FJ of WW2) were lost in trying to work out whether he was asking a question, making a statement or answering a question (probably someone will spot something in this post now!)

Boobies!

Too many Boobies! Shouldn't Amazons only have one remaining booby each?

I agree with GNREP8, I always see 'there' used as 'their' even on official sports news pages such as nba websites. As for the figures and relation to Greek history etc.: Lets face it- if Amazons indeed existed they would have been most likely some form os Steppe riding Scythians and the one boob theory is plausible as they would fight as horse archers(most likely anyhow).

As for some points on the minis: I like the sculpts, the musicians have a certain deity like quality to them (ei graceful, Athena-like)and I like their paint job and hairstyle. As for Phalangitrixes i think some braided hair should be done as well as such long flowing hair would be unpractical. The 'bum-crack' could be done with a finer line too.

"one's boss might object to viewing pictures of nude minis on company time, after all"

And wasting time looking at non nude Wargames pages will be fine with him then ?

NSFW, with naked 25mm high women, i have to laugh.

While the painting is not to my taste, i respect the effort taken to produce them and the thread, just how many projects on the showcase have the knockers done i wonder ?.

Obviously these aren't Brazilian Amazons. :D

I'm still watching for the 'Baywatch' versions….