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doug612514 Oct 2008 9:41 a.m. PST

Quick question and Im proberbly not the first to ask- do I need to rebase my WAB figures to use in FOG???

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP14 Oct 2008 10:21 a.m. PST

FOG is 60mm frontage stands.

aecurtis Fezian14 Oct 2008 10:32 a.m. PST

Or not…

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP14 Oct 2008 10:41 a.m. PST

And that's for 25/28mm figures. From my admittedly quick reading of the rules, they are using the "WRG" standards for base sizes.

Jim

brevior est vita14 Oct 2008 10:59 a.m. PST

The FoG rules call for multiple figures per base, with WRG "standard" basing. However, since the FoG rules also specifically allow basing with greater depth and/or fewer figures per base than "standard," there really is no problem at all.

Assuming that you are using 25/28mm figures, the simplest and easiest thing to do would be to use sabots. Just place three 20mm-wide WAB bases (or two 25mm-wide bases) on each 60mm-wide sabot, and you are ready to go.

Cheers,
Scott

Who asked this joker14 Oct 2008 11:28 a.m. PST

Assuming that you are using 25/28mm figures, the simplest and easiest thing to do would be to use sabots. Just place three 20mm-wide WAB bases (or two 25mm-wide bases) on each 60mm-wide sabot, and you are ready to go.

Another possibility is to go 80mm wide and do a "true" WRG basing scheme. 4 figs for close order, 3 for loose order and 2 for skirmish order.

aecurtis Fezian14 Oct 2008 11:45 a.m. PST

>>> Another possibility is to go 80mm wide and do a "true" WRG basing scheme. 4 figs for close order, 3 for loose order and 2 for skirmish order.

For some reason, that eminently sensible suggestion--similar to the "28mm" basing scheme the "Warrior" rules authors developed specifically to accommodate large figures and embrace WAB-based figures--meets a stubborn wall of resistance from the FoG Powers That Be and their acolytes.

Allen

mashrewba14 Oct 2008 11:49 a.m. PST

It could have been the dawning of a new era.
I did it anyway…

SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER14 Oct 2008 12:03 p.m. PST

I must not be an acolyte then. I let my WAB friends use larger basing, and I sabot my troops. Of course, back in WRG7th days, I used the open order depths for everything and never noticed scale creep till I was rebasing for WAB.

aecurtis Fezian14 Oct 2008 12:30 p.m. PST

You're just not an official, robed and hooded in sinister red, acolyte.

Back in WRG7th days, you could get four Hinchliffe Palmyran cataphracts on a 60mm frontage. The world has changed.

Allen

Who asked this joker14 Oct 2008 12:45 p.m. PST

Back in WRG7th days, you could get four Hinchliffe Palmyran cataphracts on a 60mm frontage. The world has changed.

They must be close to 1/72 scale. Those new lovely soft plastic figures fit the old 60mm base just right. If you can do that with Hinchliffe, they must be the same…or just incredibly skinny.

aecurtis Fezian14 Oct 2008 12:57 p.m. PST

I'm sorry: "lovely" and "soft plastic" go about as well together as do "feces" and "sandwich".

For hard plastic, replace "feces" with "dog vomit".

Hinchliffe Palmryan catapharacts were laterally challenged. But they fit the bases prescribed by the rules.

Allen

Jeremy Sutcliffe14 Oct 2008 1:06 p.m. PST

There were people who played WRG 7th? Surely those were the dandruff rules – everyone scratching their heads about them.

I play WAB with DBx (and hence FoG) based troops. The only drawback is that WAB has individual figure removal so I have to use the dreaded curtain rings.

(Wasn't there a Larry Leadhead cartoon where one of the characters dreamed he'd died and gone to hell and the reason he knew it was hell was that everyone was using WRG 7th?)

Who asked this joker14 Oct 2008 1:32 p.m. PST

I'm sorry: "lovely" and "soft plastic" go about as well together as do "feces" and "sandwich".

For hard plastic, replace "feces" with "dog vomit".

Do I detect a little metal zealotry? grin

John

Mmmmmm…..Feces Sandwich…

SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER14 Oct 2008 3:55 p.m. PST

I was basing Heratige and Parthas in those days. My kilt is a sinister red, and I'm thinking about getting a new Black Watch. I used to be a lead snob but now there's a 12 step program for it. However, I refuse to 12 step for beer snobbery. Black and Tans are God's last perfect gift to his chosen people. Feces sandwich reminds me of the pool scene in Caddy Shack.

aecurtis Fezian14 Oct 2008 4:52 p.m. PST

"I was basing Heritage and Parthas in those days."

Me, too: 15mm Napoleonics.

"I used to be a lead snob but now there's a 12 step program for it."

I suspect there's a 12-step program to help with addiction to 12-step programs.

"However, I refuse to 12 step for beer snobbery."

Nowt wrong eith you, then. grin

Allen

advocate15 Oct 2008 2:45 a.m. PST

Black and Tans are God's last perfect gift to his chosen people

A phrase that can be read in oh so many ways… Recalls a story a friend of mine told on going into a bar in deepest Eire in the 1970's and (innocently, he claims) ordering a 'Black and Tan'. The bar went silent and my friend's host hustled him outside smartly and explained the error of his ways.

jameshammyhamilton15 Oct 2008 4:15 a.m. PST

One of the players at my club has obtained a load of metal sabot bases in FoG sizes for his WAB based armies. As his WAB figures have magnetised bases they just clip into place. He ends up with one less figure than perscribed on some bases but they look just fine.

brevior est vita15 Oct 2008 6:36 a.m. PST

I always play FoG using "standard" bases with fewer figures per base. No one from the Inquisition has appeared at my door to make me stop. ;-)

So doug, let me once again reassure you that you do not need to rebase your WAB figures to use in FoG.

Cheers,
Scott

SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER15 Oct 2008 10:22 a.m. PST

I would never order a Black and Tan in Dulin Eire, but Dublin Ohio is another story. Wait there' a kocking at the door, S.O. says there are some guys in red to see me……

liwargamer15 Oct 2008 8:31 p.m. PST

ars belli, what's your address ? We'll be there. It must be a sign that we are getting old. 10 years ago people were complaining about rebaseing their 25 MM figs to play WAB. Now we are thinking about baseing our 28 MM figs to play FOG.

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