ochoin | 27 Aug 2015 1:57 a.m. PST |
Heinlein once wrote, "Radical and conservative are terms for emotional attitudes and not sociological opinion." I'd agree in terms of sociological perspective, Symbolic Interactionism seems to offer the most cogent explanation. BTW in answer to the question posed in the poll: none of your business.
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Mako11 | 27 Aug 2015 2:16 a.m. PST |
So, no Libertarian choice, huh? |
MajorB | 27 Aug 2015 2:55 a.m. PST |
"How Do You Lean Politically?" Sideways! |
Flashman14 | 27 Aug 2015 3:09 a.m. PST |
Several of us decried the absence of a libertarian option in the discussion. Weasel doesn't quite understand libertarianism; he replied with: "US Libertarians, by the definitions I posted (which were not purely economic), are right wing. If your belief in social liberalism is strong enough to support collective action to promote it, then vote "right with some left views"." |
Mute Bystander | 27 Aug 2015 3:32 a.m. PST |
Lean, Hell! More like semi-recumbent, if not horizontal!! Can we have a poll on religion next? I think I can stir the pot more if I use my definitions… Really? I am torn between – 1) How is this miniatures War Game related? 2) Go to Hell, it is not of your business! 3) You can't figure it out by my earlier posts??!! Note:One can be "party independent" and still be viewed as leaning one of four ways on different issues: politicalcompass.org/test |
Martin Rapier | 27 Aug 2015 4:24 a.m. PST |
Never mind Libertarians, what about poor old Anarchists? |
etotheipi | 27 Aug 2015 4:53 a.m. PST |
Never mind Libertarians, what about poor old Anarchists? Isn't there an inherent contradiction between being an anarchist and selecting from a multiple choice list? |
skippy0001 | 27 Aug 2015 5:09 a.m. PST |
Rational Anarchist and rational socio-psychopath. |
John the Greater | 27 Aug 2015 5:28 a.m. PST |
I have always had a soft spot for the Monster Raving Loony Party. |
RavenscraftCybernetics | 27 Aug 2015 5:56 a.m. PST |
I lean to the left but I dress to the right. |
Winston Smith | 27 Aug 2015 6:02 a.m. PST |
I hope this doesn't turn into DH bait. |
Buff Orpington | 27 Aug 2015 6:35 a.m. PST |
Where's the Mind your own business" option? |
Martin Rapier | 27 Aug 2015 7:13 a.m. PST |
"Isn't there an inherent contradiction between being an anarchist and selecting from a multiple choice list?" Not really, the main contradication is that the only available social justice options involve state intervention, whereas the libertarians have go their gung-ho free market free-for-all minus state. At some point anarchists and libertarians go right around the circle and meet in the middle. In more naive youth, I knew quite a few libertarians, even if some of them were skinheads of the more intelligent variety. |
ataulfo | 27 Aug 2015 7:21 a.m. PST |
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Sergeant Paper | 27 Aug 2015 8:11 a.m. PST |
Decline to participate in political polls, where does that put me in your spectrum? |
Weasel | 27 Aug 2015 9:20 a.m. PST |
There IS a "special snowflake" option ;) Since everyone got super mad the last time, I'd urge people to just vote without too much pontification. Or not, as you see fit. As the OFM says, you are not forced to read anything. |
Gunfreak | 27 Aug 2015 9:45 a.m. PST |
I'm center (by european standards,) so by american standards I'm one small step from beeing Mao |
Parzival | 27 Aug 2015 11:01 a.m. PST |
I refuse to be labelled or pigeonholed so that anyone can prejudicially reject my thought without hearing a word I say. |
Old Contemptibles | 27 Aug 2015 1:13 p.m. PST |
I think the current terms are: Extreme Left Left Center Left or Left of Center Center Center Right or Right of Center Right Extreme Right I think that's the current scale that is in use today. |
sneakgun | 27 Aug 2015 1:22 p.m. PST |
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Mithmee | 27 Aug 2015 3:50 p.m. PST |
Gee, does anyone want to quess which way I lean? |
Striker | 27 Aug 2015 8:40 p.m. PST |
Depends if you have your walker or not Mithmee. |
mandt2 | 27 Aug 2015 10:22 p.m. PST |
I am pleasantly surprised at the balance. |
ochoin | 28 Aug 2015 2:04 a.m. PST |
I am pleasantly surprised at the balance. I am pleasantly surprised there was no animosity in the comments. Don't tell me TMP is hitting new heights of maturity? (&, because of this, can I hear the sounds of gnashing chompers from a distant forum?) |
KTravlos | 28 Aug 2015 2:28 a.m. PST |
Political beliefs tend to follow a normal curve when there is not a large selection effect in the population you draw a sample from. And while this is not a random sample, its large enough and from a population in which political beliefs should be randomly distributed (in that war-gaming does not necessitate certain political beliefs as a precondition)to show the normal distribution. At least for this question and using these categories. |
kyoteblue | 28 Aug 2015 2:07 p.m. PST |
I am shocked to find that there are any leftist on TMP !!!!! |
brass1 | 28 Aug 2015 2:44 p.m. PST |
I tend to lean towards whichever hand is holding my cane. However, my dark political secret is that I used to vote for Gus Hall and Angela Davis when they were the American Communist Party presidential ticket, just because. LT |
David Manley | 28 Aug 2015 2:46 p.m. PST |
Interesting that "none of your business" isn't there as an option despite being raised in the pre-poll discussion |
Frederick | 28 Aug 2015 7:36 p.m. PST |
Centre right, i.e. conservative but there are a number of social policies that I agree with (universal health care, etc) |
14Bore | 29 Aug 2015 5:54 p.m. PST |
The only disagreement is the term extreme right wing. Leftists from my high school social studies classes to many today use the term incorrectly. |
infojunky | 29 Aug 2015 6:18 p.m. PST |
I am a conservative hawkish small government Socialist, you figure out what that means….. |
Militia Pete | 30 Aug 2015 5:21 a.m. PST |
Libertarian. So I put extreme right wing but that is not accurate. |
Rod I Robertson | 30 Aug 2015 7:06 p.m. PST |
I am a rational pragmatist who tries to avoid donning the blinkers of ideology and isms as much as humanly possible. Equilibrium and a dynamic and creative neutralization of disproportionate concentrations of power are the things I hope for. Thus, I am a humanitarian-libertarian who recognizes the need for a slightly socialist state but is highly suspicious of that state's actions and tendency to accumulate power. Proactive disassembly of parts of the state (or other concentrations of power in society) concurrent with creative augmentation of the state, in equilibrium. All to solve societal problems in the best way possible. |
LHMGKodiak | 04 Sep 2015 11:57 a.m. PST |
somewhere to the right of Darth Vader |