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pzivh43 Supporting Member of TMP27 Feb 2015 4:42 a.m. PST

How can you even ask this question? He's a rogue and a scoundrel. Of course he shot first!!

Winston Smith27 Feb 2015 5:37 a.m. PST

Agreed.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP27 Feb 2015 5:40 a.m. PST

No doubt he shot first

Given where he was, who he was meeting and the likely consequences of not shooting first, it's not like he had a lot of choices

Tommy2027 Feb 2015 6:38 a.m. PST

IIRC, at the time Lucas said that was a deliberate choice, and was important to Han's character. Of course, when the prequels came out he did a 180 and said Han always shot first, it just wasn't clear.

Twit.

Terrement27 Feb 2015 7:50 a.m. PST

If these good folks attest to it, how can there be ANY doubt?

YouTube link

At the 2:02 point, but worth waiting for it (and staying afterwards).

Just sayin'

Ron W DuBray27 Feb 2015 9:38 a.m. PST

Lets see: he had a gun pointed at him any one would shoot first as soon as he realized the other guy was going to shot him or even before. So whats the big deal about it? Any one with a brain would have shot first.

Gattamalata27 Feb 2015 9:54 a.m. PST

The problem is, that among certain circles, it wouldn't make one look like a "good guy" and it's why Lucas ended up tinkering with the scene in almost every re-release of episode 1 or 4 – this is why I prefer the Dagg Dibrimi character.

The Beast Rampant27 Feb 2015 10:18 a.m. PST

But Han WASN'T a good guy. Besides, the dialogue strongly implies that Greedo is quite untrustworthy: he proffers a payoff to look the other way- or maybe he won't…?

And of couse, Jabba "might only take (Han's) ship, if (he's) lucky." There's no good outcome.

Why WOULDN'T he have shot him?

Latter-day Lucas understands character like I understand why anyone watches "E" reality programming.

darthfozzywig27 Feb 2015 10:55 a.m. PST

It was fundamental to Han's character. When I was 7 and saw Han shoot first, I felt like "woah, this guy is dangerous. I don't know what he's going to do next."

I knew Han wasn't exactly a bad guy, but that made me feel that he wasn't exactly a good guy, either. Which was the point.

Without it, it flattens out Han's character arc quite a bit.

The Beast Rampant27 Feb 2015 12:27 p.m. PST

IIRC, at the time Lucas said that was a deliberate choice, and was important to Han's character. Of course, when the prequels came out he did a 180 and said Han always shot first, it just wasn't clear.

I wish I had taken it upon myself to document all of Lucas' "Word from the Mount" one-eighties. I have heard a lot in various interviews, and it's not like I was seeking out ever soundbite and article I could find on him. Seriously, there is something off with the guy.

Mardaddy27 Feb 2015 2:32 p.m. PST

Since when does something self-evident require a "vote" to confirm?

He shot first.

There is no "opinion" about it.

Defy revisionism!!!!!!!!

nvdoyle27 Feb 2015 3:32 p.m. PST

Han did not shoot first.

Han shot.. Greedo never got off a shot.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP27 Feb 2015 7:23 p.m. PST

Nvdoyle wins the thread! thumbs up

mandt227 Feb 2015 8:05 p.m. PST

It's clear that he did. At least it was until Lucas tampered with the evidence.

tkdguy28 Feb 2015 12:53 a.m. PST

Han acted in self-defense. Greedo had already stated his intent to shoot him.

The special edition version made no sense. Greedo shot at point-blank range and missed? How did he last so long as a bounty hunter?

Rogues104 Mar 2015 12:58 p.m. PST

Can I get Zardoz added as a choice instead of Serpico?

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